Torture News 5/24/09
Liz Cheney accidentally admitted the truth: her dad's greatest fear is prosecution.
The Pentagon Post keeps on lying about Pelosi. (This time it's Paul Kane and Joby Warrick.) Marcy Wheeler documents all their lies.
Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller thought he was tougher than waterboarding. Surprise! He lasted 6 seconds, then declared it's "absolutely torture."
“It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that’s no joke,” Mancow said, likening it to a time when he nearly drowned as a child. “It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back… It was instantaneous… and I don’t want to say this: absolutely torture.”
“I wanted to prove it wasn’t torture,” Mancow said. “They cut off our heads, we put water on their face… I got voted to do this but I really thought ‘I’m going to laugh this off.’”
Yeah torture is just ROTFL. Here's Josh Marshall:
If you haven't seen the Mancow waterboarding, you can see the full video here. It's powerful on a number of different levels.
The upshot is that the guy goes into it in cocky Hannity mode and then after maybe 5 or 6 seconds he struggles up and he's converted, claiming it's "absolutely torture", that he never realized it was that bad, etc.
Now, here's the thing. I'm genuinely surprised that he was was surprised that it was that bad. I'm not saying that for effect. Muller really seemed to think it was like getting dunked by your friend in a pool or something. Just factually, everyone who knows anything about this says that it's horrific and you pretty much instantly feel like you're drowning and at the edge of death. And it's a physiological response. So even if you've gone through it ten times and know rationally that you don't die, it doesn't matter. You're instantly put back into the mental space of drowning and being at the edge of death.
I must confess that when I see Hannity or the rest of these guys saying it's no big deal and it's not torture, I kind of figured they're playing semantic games and essentially saying 'I don't care what we do to evil Muslim terrorist bad guys.' Hang them from them toes, waterboard them, whatever, who cares? I don't agree with that. It's hideous. But I understand it. But here it turns out they're just completely ignorant, just haven't been paying attention. Just in the purest factual sense have no idea what they're talking about.
... on waterboarding or anything else. These guys are simply morons. Why do we pay any attention to them at all?
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