Ron Paul Shocks GOP With the 'Inconvenient Truth' About Islamic Terrorism

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Ron Paul shocked the GOP debate in South Carolina when he dared to defy the central belief of post 9/11 Republican theology: that Islamic terrorists hate us "because of our freedom," as George Bush said.

REP. PAUL: Have you ever read the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we've been over there; we've been bombing Iraq for 10 years. We've been in the Middle East -- I think Reagan was right.

We don't understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics. So right now we're building an embassy in Iraq that's bigger than the Vatican. We're building 14 permanent bases. What would we say here if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico? We would be objecting. We need to look at what we do from the perspective of what would happen if somebody else did it to us. (Applause.)

MR. GOLER: Are you suggesting we invited the 9/11 attack, sir?

REP. PAUL: I'm suggesting that we listen to the people who attacked us and the reason they did it, and they are delighted that we're over there because Osama bin Laden has said, "I am glad you're over on our sand because we can target you so much easier." They have already now since that time -- (bell rings) -- have killed 3,400 of our men, and I don't think it was necessary.

MR. GIULIANI: Wendell, may I comment on that? That's really an extraordinary statement. That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of September 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don't think I've heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th. (Applause, cheers.)

And I would ask the congressman to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that. (Applause.)

MR. GOLER: Congressman?

REP. PAUL: I believe very sincerely that the CIA is correct when they teach and talk about blowback. When we went into Iran in 1953 and installed the shah, yes, there was blowback. A reaction to that was the taking of our hostages and that persists. And if we ignore that, we ignore that at our own risk. If we think that we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred, then we have a problem.

They don't come here to attack us because we're rich and we're free. They come and they attack us because we're over there. I mean, what would we think if we were -- if other foreign countries were doing that to us?

Despite the attack by the High Priest of Republican 9/11 Theology, Rudy Giuliani, Ron Paul stood his ground. And he was rewarded for that by running a strong second in FOX News' own text poll with 25%, four points behind Mitt Romney and 6 points ahead of Rudy Giuliani.

Of course Paul is right, and the Defense Science Board is on his side:

'Muslims do not hate our freedom, but rather they hate our policies [the report says]. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the long-standing, even increasing, support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and the Gulf states. Thus, when American public diplomacy talks about bringing democracy to Islamic societies, this is seen as no more than self-serving hypocrisy.' 

Ever since 9/11, the American people have been brainwashed by Republicans into believing "they hate us because of our freedom." But after the disaster in Iraq, Americans are slowly waking up and asking the tough questions.

If there are any thinking Republicans left, Ron Paul will make major gains in GOP polls after telling his "inconvenient truth" in the South Carolina debate.

Here is the video:

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When I saw this last night, I thought it was stunning. Interesting how Giuliani got a bit more air time by misrepresenting what Ron Paul actually said. Certainly Ron Paul deserves credit for clearly and calmly explaining the truth.

From From the Nation:

The 9-11 Commission report detailed how bin Laden had, in 1996, issued "his self-styled fatwa calling on Muslims to drive American soldiers out of Saudi Arabia" and identified that declaration and another in 1998 as part of "a long series" of statements objecting to U.S. military interventions in his native Saudi Arabia in particular and the Middle East in general. Statements from bin Laden and those associated with him prior to 9-11 consistently expressed anger with the U.S. military presence on the Arabian Peninsula, U.S. aggression against the Iraqi people and U.S. support of Israel.

The 9-11 Commission based its assessments on testimony from experts on terrorism and the Middle East. Asked about the motivations of the terrorists, FBI Special Agent James Fitzgerald told the commission: "I believe they feel a sense of outrage against the United States. They identify with the Palestinian problem, they identify with people who oppose repressive regimes, and I believe they tend to focus their anger on the United States."

Fitzgerald's was not a lonely voice in the intelligence community.

Michael Scheuer, the former Central Intelligence Agency specialist on bin Laden and al-Qaeda, has objected to simplistic suggestions by President Bush and others that terrorists are motivated by an ill-defined irrational hatred of the United States. "The politicians really are at great fault for not squaring with the American people," Scheuer said in a CNN interview. "We're being attacked for what we do in the Islamic world, not for who we are or what we believe in or how we live. And there's a huge burden of guilt to be laid at Mr. Bush, Mr. Clinton, both parties for simply lying to the American people."

It is true that reasonable people might disagree about the legitimacy of Muslim and Arab objections to U.S. military policies. And, certainly, the vast majority of Americans would object to any attempt to justify the attacks on this country, its citizen and its soldiers.

But that was not what Paul was doing. He was trying to make a case, based on what we know from past experience, for bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq.

Giuliani's reaction to Paul's comments, especially the suggestion that they should be withdrawn, marked him as the candidate peddling "absurd explanations."

Viewers of the debate appear to have agreed. An unscientific survey by Fox News asked its viewers to send text messages identifying the winner. Tens of thousands were received and Paul ranked along with Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney as having made the best showing.

No wonder then that, when asked about his dust-up with Giuliani, Paul said he'd be "delighted" to debate the front-runner on foreign policy.

It is both alarming and astounding how the Republican crowd responded. Kool-aid anyone?

Rudy is wishy washy

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He can't even tell if he's a woman or man.

Ron Paul is the only honest Republican in the party besides Hagel.

He's right on all counts.  We don't know the culture or the people.  Just because we buy oil from them, doesn't mean we know them.  I go to the store to purchase food and I know the grocer is a grocer or the cashier is a cashier.  I don't know them on a friendly basis.

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I was just told by somebody that they were watching Hardball and that this clip was edited down to nothing, giving Giuliani the upper hand in the debate. He also told me that it's been shown that way all day on the news.

I don't have a TV available to me now, so I would like to hear from others how this is playing over the mainstream media.

Thanks.

The media did distort Ron Paul's statements

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The media is disgusting with their lies and spin, as they (the media)tries to force their picks for president on to the voters. The media distorted Ron Paul's statements while they( the media) tried to make one of their (the media) favorite picks for president, Giuliani et. al. some kind of hero.

Ron Paul was the only one not being a "pander-liar for votes", but actually made sense.