Ohio recount could put Kerry in the White House
1. Urgent announcements from Ray Beckerman, Cheryl Guttman, and VoterGate.
2. Find Just One Senator to join John Conyers in challenging Ohio's Electors, especially Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Robert Byrd (D-WV), Jon Corzine (D-NJ) Russ Feingold (D-WI), Jim Jeffords (I-VT), Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), Bill Nelson (D-FL), Barack Obama (D-IL), Ron Wyden (D-OR) - and John Kerry! Urge targeted House Democrats to join too.
3. Attend a No Stolen Election protest (also here) in your community. Help organize a You Stole My Vote rally in your State Capital. Go to DC on January 6 to demand Congress reject Ohio's fraudulent Electors.
4. Tell the media to end their blackout of Ohio's election fraud. Search for a specific news organization, chose 3 states (DC, OH, NY) or write 'em all. Cite the Moss v. Bush lawsuit as the proof of fraud.
5. Call/fax/email Ken Blackwell and demand specific answers to the 34 specific questions from Congressional Democrats. Also demand he recuse himself from the recount because he co-chaired the Bush campaign: (877) 767-6446 (toll-free) (614) 466-2655 (local) (614) 644-0649 (fax) blackwell@sos.state.oh.us.
6. Call/email House Judiciary Committee chair James Sensenbrenner and demand official public hearings on election fraud in Ohio: 202-225-2492 Judiciary@mail.house.gov. Demand immediate hearings by the House Administration Committee too.
| Bush Lead | Change | |
| 136,483 | Election night | |
| 132,590 | -3,893 | Franklin County (Gahana 1-B) computer error |
| 118,506 | -14,084 | Provisional Ballots (all 88 counties; 79% valid) |
| 118,775 | "Official" count | |
| 118,457 | -285 | "Official" recount - conducted in violation of state law |
| Uncounted | ||
| 92,672 | "spoiled" ballots (undervotes and overvotes) | |
| 14,000 | Rejected provisional ballots | |
Many of the 21% of rejected provisional ballots were valid under the rules in place before SoS Ken Blackwell changed them in 2004, which counted provisional ballots cast anywhere in the county. Blackwell's intent was to disenfranchise Democratic voters - an act of fraud comparable to Katherine Harris' fraudulent felon purge.
92,672 (or is it nearly 97,000?) "spoiled" ballots (undervotes and overvotes): As Florida 2000 proved, machine failures disproprortionately hurt Democrats. These votes must be counted.
How much unquantifiable fraud was committed? Lots, according to the Moss v. Bush lawsuit, Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee (also follow-up), Ray Beckerman, dKosopedia, FreePress.org, rincewind, and Greg Black. Here is a great map of Ohio problems. As in Ukraine, the U.S. Presidential election should be rescheduled because of widespread fraud.
12/31 FreePress.org documented numerous problems with the reported totals and the recount process
12/30 Rep. John Conyers said he would challenge Ohio's Electors on January 6 and asked all Senators to join him.
12/28 Ken Blackwell refused to appear at a deposition on December 27 and sought a court order to avoid testifying.
12/28 Statewide recount added 734 votes for Kerry and 449 for Bush, reducing Bush's margin to 118,457.
12/25 Voters in the Mahoning Valley (including Youngstown) testified for 3 hours at a hearing about pre-punched ballots; touch-screen vote switching; more absentee votes than absentee voters; unfair provisional voter deletions; change of voting sites on Election Day. voter suppression; voter intimidation; double voting; malfunctioning machines; recalibrated machines; evidently rigged machines; and even 25 million negative votes registered in some races. One pattern that has been documented based on the experience of voters in Florida, New Mexico, Ohio, and elsewhere (especially in swing states) is the machines appear to have been set with a default to Bush.
12/25 Miami County: Richard Hayes Phillips examined turnout levels and found more evidence of fraud.
12/24 Summit County: Richard Hayes Phillips examined uncounted ballots and found more evidence of fraud.
12/24 Hamilton County: Richard Hayes Phillips examined uncounted ballots and found more evidence of fraud.
12/24 Cuyahoga County: Richard Hayes Phillips examined provisional ballots and found more evidence of fraud.
12/24 Lucas County: Richard Hayes Phillips found a disturbing pattern: the 14 wards with the highest reported turnout were won by John Kerry by a margin of 11 to 7 in the aggregate. The 10 wards with the lowest reported turnout were won by John Kerry by a margin of 6 to 1 in the aggregate. Phillips cites the 10/13 break-in at Democratic Headquarters in Toledo, when computers with crucial data were stolen.
12/23 Mahoning County: Richard Hayes Phillips found evidence ES&S Ivotronic touchscreen machines were fraudulently set to default to Bush, possibly due to ES&S publishing the system password on its web site.
12/21 Warren, Clermont & Butler Counties: Richard Hayes Phillips found disturbing patterns in the three counties that produced Bush's entire margin of "victory" in Ohio. In Warren County, officials cited a bogus homeland security warning to keep the public and the media away from the vote counting.
12/20 Mercer County officials let a Triad technician "disassemble" a tabulator and replace a switch.
12/20 Lucas County officials let a Diebold technician reprogram the scanners in the middle of the recount.
12/20 Erie County officials let technicians replace a computer chip.
12/19 Prof. Ron Baiman updated Prof. Steve Freeman's analysis of the exit polls that predicted a Kerry win, and confirmed Freeman's conclusion that the results in the battleground states (OH, PA, and FL) and nationally were impossible.
12/18 Freepress.org revealed Ken Blackwell kept a secret slush fund - and also failed to keep a statewide inventory of voting machines for security. Freepress.org also found Shelby County discarded critical recount data.
12/18 Perry County: Local candidate Bill Crane discovered the number of voters exceeded the number of people who signed the books in at least 11 of 46 precincts, and 359 votes were cast by people whose signatures were never verified as required by law.
12/17 Mathematician Tim Lohrentz carefully calculated the number of disenfranchised voters in Franklin County (Columbus), concluding over 22,000 voters were likely kept from voting due to long lines. About 70% - over 15,000 - were in heavily Democratic precincts.
12/17 Cliff Arnebeck's Ohio fraud lawsuit - Moss v. Bush - was re-filed, two days after it was thrown out on a technicality.
12/16 John Kerry's lawyer demanded a full investigation of Hocking voting machine tampering.
12/15 John Conyers told Keith Olbermann he and others in Congress are considering formally challenging Ohio's Bush electors on January 6.
12/15 Hocking County: NY Times reports John Conyers' request for an FBI investigation of Triad recount machine tampering and fraud conspiracy. Triad is a Republican-owned company that tallies punchard votes in 41 Ohio counties.
12/15 Hardin County: Recount observers report the Diebold technician was actively involved in giving instructions to the observers. Further, he arrived the day before the recount to prepare the machines and data disks that contain the election results.
12/15 Recount leader Katrina Sumner was run off I-70 by two dark blue suburbans with tinted glass, one with Maryland plates.
12/14 Ken Blackwell refused to answer any of the 36 specific questions sent by John Conyers on December 2.
12/13 Democratic Electors from CT, MA, ME, and VT urged Congress to investigate Stolen Election 2004.
12/13 John Conyers held hearings in Columbus, which revealed lots of new scandals: a "Texas Strike Force" in Franklin County that threatened ex-convicts; liberal-arts Kenyon College had too few machines, while nearby Nazarene University had plenty; statistician Ron Paul Baiman said the exit poll swing in Ohio was less than one in 25 million - "in lay terms, impossible"; Prof. Norm Robbins said hundreds of voters were illegally disenfranchised in Cuyahoga;
12/13 John Conyers heard "jaw-dropping" testimony from Clint Curtis about writing a program to "flip" votes on electronic voting machines in late 2000 at the request of Florida House Speaker (now Congressman) Tom Feeney.
12/13 John Conyers urged Gov. Bob Taft to delay the vote by Bush's Ohio Electors, but they voted anyway.
12/13 Cliff Arnebeck filed his long-awaited contest, arguing Ohio's 20 Electors for Bush are invalid because of fraud.
12/12 John Kerry urged Rev. Jesse Jackson to take a more active role in the Ohio investigation.
12/12 Trumbull County: Dr. Werner Lange found 580 absentee votes for which there were no absentee voters identified in the poll books - a major fraud. If extrapolated state-wide, there could be 62,513 fraudulent absentees.
12/10 John Kerry's lawyer Don McTigue wrote all 88 county election boards requesting 11 specific actions to ensure a transparent and valid recount.
12/10 Ken Blackwell locks out recount volunteers - the coverup begins!
12/10 Montgomery County: In 47 Dayton precincts, which went for Kerry by a margin of 7 to 1, the “spoilage” rate of regular ballots was 5.16%, compared to 1.31% for the rest of the county, according to a study by Richard Hayes Phillips.
12/10 Lucas County: Remarkably 25 suburban precincts had over 80% turnout, along with 45 urban Toledo precincts. With central scan tabulation, Richard Hayes Phillips believes the totals were hacked.
12/8 House Judiciary Committee Democratic Forum puts election fraud issues before the nation.
12/4 Zogby poll: "Concerns have been expressed by some observers of the election that problems with counting the votes may have affected the results and deserve further investigation. Do you think these concerns are...?" Very valid (28.5%), Somewhat valid (14.0%), Mostly invalid (24.2%), Not at all valid (31.2%), Not sure (2.2%).
12/3 Columbus daytime rally drew 2,000 activists. Listen to the outstanding evening forum courtesy of Pacifica Radio.
12/2 Bush's lead dropped to 118,506 as Kerry gained 14,084 from provisional ballots in all 88 counties.
12/1 John Kerry joined the legal fight for a statewide recount.
11/29 Franklin lost 95,000 votes? Mahoning lost 12,000 votes? Warren lost 6,400 votes? Analysis by Ann Pfeiffer at Buzzflash.
11/29 Cleveland: Columnist Juan Gonzalez looked at individual precinct results and found 700 mysterious votes for the far-right Constitutional Party and the Libertarian Party in 10 black precincts - votes probably meant for Kerry. "Also unusual was the drop in the Democratic vote in scores of precincts compared to 2000. But more on that next time..."
11/29 Hamilton: Alicia Reese, Cincinnati's vice mayor, said 1,000 residents didn't have their ballots counted because they went to the "wrong table" at polling locations with multiple precincts and poll workers did not send them to the right table.
11/28 Southwest Ohio results show C. Ellen Connally, an underfunded black woman running for Ohio Supreme Court, running significantly ahead of Kerry in white Republican counties. (Data dissected at DailyKos.com)
11/27 Rev. Jesse Jackson called for a recount of votes and said the Ohio Supreme Court should consider setting aside President Bush's victory Nov. 2.
11/26 Cleveland: People for the American Way Foundation sued to stop Cuyahoga County's elections board from rejecting 8,099 provisional ballots until they are hand checked against voter-registration cards.
11/27 Hamilton: Kerry gained 1,778 votes from roughly 11,000 provisional ballots. But roughly 3,000 ballots were rejected: 1100 for voting at the wrong precinct, 400 for voting at the wrong table.
11/27 Sandusky: A computer disk containing votes was accidentally backed up into the voting machines twice by an election worker, causing it to look like there was an overcount.
11/25 Warren: Attorney Cliff Arnebeck challenged a 33% increase in votes cast, the second highest increase in the state (behind Delaware).
11/25: Federal Judge James Carr denied the Cobb/Bednarik lawsuit for an immediate recount.
11/24: Dr. Steven Freeman updated his Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy and calculated the odds against the exit polls errors in the 3 key states - Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania - at 662,000-to-1 - a statistical "impossibility." Exit pollster Warren Mitofsky told Keith Olbermann there was no significant problem with his poll. Pollster James Zogby told Olbermann 20% of Americans think Bush's "victory" was bogus and called for a blue-ribbon investigation.
11/24 Columbus: Richard Hayes Phillips says withholding of voting machines from predominantly Democratic wards in the
City of Columbus cost John Kerry upwards of 17,000
votes. Phillips blames Elections Director Matt Damschroder (the former Executive Director of the Franklin County Republican Party) and his co-conspirators.
11/23 Cleveland: Election officials rejected 8,099 provisional ballots - one out of three of the 24,472 provisional ballots cast. They rejected 5,595 because there was no record of their registration. "I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered," said Dr. Norm Robbins.
11/22: Cobb & Badnarik sued Ken Blackwell for an immediate recount. The Ohio Democratic Party joined the recount effort, and the Kerry Campaign will "participate."
11/22: After four public hearings, Bob Fitrakis described how the Ohio election was rigged for Bush by Franklin County BOE Director Matt Damschroder, who sent too few voting machines to black precincts in order to produce long lines and turn away voters. Keith Olbermann explored the Republican plan to delay the recount past the meeting of the Electoral College.
11/20: The Ohio Honest Elections Campaign, led by attorney Cliff Arnebeck, announced it would challenge Ohio's results, using sworn testimony collected at 4 public hearings.
11/19 Cleveland: Richard Hayes Phillips examined precinct results and concluded Kerry mysteriously lost at least 6,000 votes due to low turnout in the city (50%) compared to the surrounding county (72%).
11/19 Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik and Green VP candidate Pat LaMarche spoke at the ReDefeatBush.com protest at LaFayette Park in front of the White House.
11/17 The Ohio Democratic Party sued to get Federal Judge Michael H. Watson to order Ken Blackwell to impose uniform standards for counting provisional votes on all 88 counties.
11/16 MSNBC's David Schuster says Kerry could pull within 3,000 votes in Ohio, when all the provisional and "spoiled" ballots are counted.
11/15 The Green Party raised the necessary $113,600 for the Ohio recount in 4 days.
11/15 Justice Through Music is offering a $100,000 reward for evidence of 2004 presidential election fraud.
11/13 Thanks to angry calls from activists around the country, Ken Blackwell backed off on discarding provisional ballots without birthdates.
11/13 Cleveland: Spanish-speaking residents said they encountered a number of problems on Election Day, including some that prevented votes from being cast. A lack of Spanish-speaking poll workers, no Spanish ballots and names missing from voter lists were among the complaints.
11/13 Cincinnati activist Carrie Davis asked a state appeals court to order Ken Blackwell to allow the public and reporters to watch the official vote counting at county elections boards.
11/12 Exit pollsters claimed their poll was wrong because Bush voters refused to take the poll.
11/11 Kerry campaign scrutinizes Ohio: "The Kerry campaign has compiled a list of more than 30 questions for local election officials, asking about the number of absentee and provisional ballots, any reports of equipment malfunctions on election night, and any ballots that still listed third-party challenger Ralph Nader as a candidate."
11/11 Green candidate David Cobb (KPFK interview) and Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik jointly announced their intentions to file a formal demand for a recount of the presidential ballots cast in Ohio - and called upon Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who chaired the Ohio Bush campaign, to recuse himself from the recount process. They'll need $110,000, and are collecting contributions on their respective sites. Ralph Nader said Blackwell should resign in disgrace.
11/11 PFAW Foundation's Election Protection team is supporting efforts to impound voting machines, or obtain back-up data from machines, in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New Mexico because of reported voting discrepancies and problems [and] collaborating on public hearings in Ohio this weekend to take official testimony and input from voters and volunteers who observed voting problems there on November 2.
11/10 Warren: Despite county claims they had to lock down the election office because of FBI warnings, the FBI denies warning officials of any special threat. Olbermann is all over this.
11/10 Cuyahoga: officials suddenly change the rules for counting provisional ballots, adding a brand new requirement for date of birth. Dozens of ballots are immediately disqualified for this reason.
11/10 Cuyahoga: Excess votes dismissed as report bug by Cleveland Plain-Dealer and Akron Beacon-Journal
11/10 Kenneth Blackwell's spokesman ridicules blog investigation: "There are also Web sites devoted to theories that there was no landing on the moon," said James Lee.
11/10 Keith Olbermann notes negative 25 million in Youngstown and quotes Prof. Jonathan Turley: "So when you look at provisionals and absentees and then those pockets of votes, yeah, there probably is enough of a margin if things broke for Kerry that he could turn the state. Is it likely? No. But it is not impossible."
11/10 Election Law at Moritz identifies important questions to research, starting with long lines, provisional ballots, and problems with electronic machines and punch cards.
11/9 Ohio Democratic Party declares Every Vote Will Be Counted!
11/9 Cuyahoga County: Keith Olberman (video here, recap here) reports 93,000 more votes than voters - and so does Randi Rhodes.
11/9 Youngstown County: VerifiedVoting.org discovered one precinct recorded -25 million votes (not included in tally)
11/9 Lucas County: Officials throw out 709 of the first 1548 provisional ballots examined; 6719 total to be examined. In 2000 and 2002, 90% of provisional ballots were accepted.
11/8 Kerry lawsuits are pending
11/8 ReDedefeatBush.com says Bush got 86% of his lead from 9 counties where he got over 70% of the vote (Auglaize, Hancock, Holmes, Mercer, Putnam, Shelby, Union, Van Wert and Warren); in 2000, he broke 70% in only 2.
11/8 Bob Fitrakis estimates 102,134 (65.7%) of 155,428 provisional ballots are for Kerry
11/8 Franklin County: Bob Fitrakis cites many issues, including deliberate shortage of voting machines in black wards, absentee ballot challenges, confusing absentee ballot design, felon purge, and wrong directions to polls
11/7 NY Times reports 92,000 overvotes, undervotes, and "counting errors."
11/7 NY Times reports 155,000 provisional ballots, but they could all be thrown out because it takes 3 votes to count a provisional ballot on county boards with 2 Dems and 2 Reps. Over 90% are probably valid.
11/7 Auglaize County: Former ES&S employee tampered with the vote counting computer on October 16.
11/6 Activists plan recount around this calendar: Absentee deadline is 11/12, then canvass begins; certification expected 12/1; then recount can begin. Any disputes over choosing Electors must be resolved by 12/7; the Electoral College meets on 12/13.
11/6 Mahoning County: Did Kerry lose 10,000 votes around Youngstown?
11/6 Safe Bush Counties: Why did C. Ellen Connally, an underfunded black woman running for Ohio Supreme Court, lose by less than Kerry?
11/6 Miami County: 19,000 votes added to tally in exact same proportion?
11/6 Darke County: 3,000 new votes ALL for Bush?
11/5 Citizen Action demands counting of 92,672 "uncounted" overvotes and undervotes, and public access to all data
11/5 Warren County: 92,251 votes counted in secret - Bush gets 72% - Keith Olberman gets an explanation
11/4 Youngstown: Touchscreen voting machines were registering "George W. Bush" when people pressed "John F. Kerry" ALL DAY LONG
11/3 Hundreds storm State House in response to massive voter suppression and corruption
11/3 Was the Ohio Election Honest and Fair?
11/3 VoteProtect.org records 2,580 incidents, including many voters who were prevented from voting
11/3 VotersUnite.org records 28 incidents
11/3 Lucas County (Toledo): Technical problems snarled the process throughout the day. Jammed or inoperable voting machines were reported throughout the city.
11/3 Mahoning County: using touchscreens, some races showed votes of negative 25 million
11/2 Hamilton County (Cincinnati): Problems with punch card voting machines delayed the start of voting for up to an hour Tuesday morning at a suburban precinct. Voters were unable to slide their punch-card ballots all the way into any of the six voting machines that had ALL evidently been damaged in transit.
10/31 Lake County: Voters received a memo on bogus Board of Elections letterhead informing voters who registered through Democratic and NACCP drives that they could not vote. Election officials referred the matter to the sheriff.
10/31 Cuyahoga County (Cleveland): Election officials received a spate of complaints after voters began receiving phone calls incorrectly informing them that their polling place had changed. In addition, unknown volunteers began showing up at voters' doors illegally offering to collect and deliver completed absentee ballots to the election office. Officials have not identified who is behind the tricks. "We've never seen anything like this before, where there seems to be a concerted effort to to give voters misinformation," Jane Platten said.
10/27 Lucas County (Toledo): The Toledo Police Department declared their investigation of the Watergate-style break-in at Democratic Headquarters "all but closed" - without finding the culprits.
10/16 Cuyahoga County: Three of the six South Dakota Republican operatives (Larry Russell, Nathan Mertz and Todd Schlekeway) who were fired for committing election fraud were hired by Ohio Republicans to work in Cuyahoga County.
10/13 Lucas County (Toledo): Thieves shattered a side window overnight at Lucas County Democratic headquarters in Toledo, stealing computers with sensitive campaign information and triggering concern of the local party's ability to deliver crucial votes on Nov. 2. Among the data on the stolen computer of the party's office manager were: e-mails discussing campaign strategy, candidates' schedules, financial information, and phone numbers of party members, candidates, donors, and volunteers.
Widely circulated "Voting Information" fliers from the "Bipartisan Voting Authority" claimed that "due to record numbers of registered voters this year," Republicans would be voting on Tuesday, November 2 while Democrats should vote Wednesday, November 3. The flier did not inform voters the polls would be closed on Wednesday.
Many of the issues above involve fraud. They form the basis for the contest filed on December 13. If the Ohio Supreme Court (controlled by Republicans, of course) finds enough fraud, it can declare Kerry the winner or order a revote - as in Ukraine.
If Kerry wins Ohio under either scenario, Congress would be presented with 2 slates of Electors on January 6 - one slate for Bush and one slate for Kerry. If one Senator and one Representative file a written motion challenging the Bush Electors, the two Houses of Congress would have to begin an immediate debate.
In 2000, 14 Representatives led by the Congressional Black Caucus filed written motions challenging Florida's Bush Electors, a scene made famous at the beginning of Fahrenheit 9-11. But no Senators were willing to join them, so there was no debate.
Activists must begin lobbying their Senators now to support a challenge to Bush's Ohio Electors on January 6. We are tracking the progress of lobbying efforts one our Just One Senator page.
Activists:
- Allliance for Democracy
- Citizens’ Alliance for Secure Elections
- Election 2004
- Green Party (volunteer)
- League of Pissed Off Voters
- Ohio Election Fraud (Ray Beckerman)
- Ohio Vigilance - Election 2004 Audit!
- RecountOhio.org
- The Free Press
- We Do Not Concede
- You Stole My Vote 51 Capital March
In-depth research:
- Voter suppression in Cleveland and Columbus (broken machines and long lines)
- Cuyahoga County African American voting patterns
- The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy by Steve Freeman
Bloggers:
- Brad Friedman's BradBlog
- Christophe Baker's Things Done
- Dan Tokaji's Equal Vote Blog (Ohio election law)
- Joseph Cannon's Cannonfire (vote fraud reality check)
- Keith Olbermann's Bloggerman
- MiaMedia's Votergate Resource Center
- Newsclip Autopsy (media blackout)
- Ohio Voter Suppression News
Blog investigations:
- 11/9 VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium (DU/Eloriel)
- 11/6 Vote Counting Thread (MyDD/Bowers)
- 11/5 Ohio Provisional Ballots, Recounts, and Fraud (DailyKos/Hunter)
- 11/5 Outrage in Ohio: Angry residents storm State House in response to massive voter suppression and corruption (IMC/Solnit)
Compilations
- Evidence of Fraud in the 2004 U.S. Presidential Election: A Reader (Michael Keefer)
Just for the record, here are the "official stories" about the Ohio vote:
- 12/5 WashPost: Okay, We Lost Ohio. The Question Is, Why?
- 11/4 WashPost: GOP Won With Accent On Rural and Traditional (credits religion-themed mailings, 85,000 volunteers, and "parties for the president")
- Bob Fertik's blog
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We need hard evidence from blackboxvoting.org
So far all the evidence of fraud has been anecdotal but there is one group that is getting the hard evidence--and it's there--Blackboxvoting.org. Blackbox voting needs to raise $50,000 to file freedom of info act requests for as quickly as possible to pay for records and the fees some states charge for them. They launched one major FOIA action last night, and have two more on the way, pell-mell. Now is the time. If you can't donate funds http://www.eservicescorp.com/form.aspx?fID=912, please donate time. E-mail to join the Cleanup Crew (you don't have to be computer scientists to help, they need some grunt work too)-- crew@blackboxvoting.org
They also need lawyers, computer scientists, media. See http://blackboxvoting.org
Black Box Voting (.ORG) is conducting the largest Freedom of Information action in history. At 8:30 p.m. Election Night, Black Box Voting blanketed the U.S. with the first in a series of public records requests, to obtain internal computer logs and other documents from 3,000 individual counties and townships. Networks called the election before anyone bothered to perform even the most rudimentary audit.
Democrats are LOSERS!
The Democrats are continuing to commit the mistakes that got them where they are.
I'll give you a great example: Bob Wexler. Now, you may not remember the name. He's a Congressman from Boca, and the people down here in Florida were just so discombobulated by what they made up.
They made up a story that the election was stolen from them. They made up a story. They lost that election. CNN, New York Times, ABC, all kinds of news organizations, came down, counted the votes five different ways.
Bush won all of them. There was no way Gore was going to win the presidency or Florida in any way, shape, manner or form. But they would not give up the fact that it was stolen from them, and so for the next four years, 2000 to 2004, they fought the 2000 election in 2004 in terms of trying to make sure there wasn't any more fraud, when there wasn't in the first place, and Wexler is out there suing this and that, demanding a paper trail out of voting machines. He lost it in federal court.
In the meantime, what they weren't doing was actually planning on winning the 2004 election. They were so afraid that they were going to have it stolen from them again. The same thing is happening to them now in Ohio. They simply are so governed by the past that they can't look forward, BUSH WON GET OVER IT...........
Van
FREEPER !!! Please don't feed the beast
Fight religious zealots , Christian, Muslim and Jew in every country of the world, starting at home in the U.S,A.
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I guess we all should take your honest word for it, after all you are here at Democrats.com because your a democrat & an honest person.
go to war
Van-hopefully you and or your children will have the wonderful opportunity to die in one of Bushes world conquestathons. Good luck with that-you deserve what you got
Kerry Must File Suit To Start Ohio Recount Immediately!
The lawsuit that Kerry joined is about getting rid of a temporary restraining order by a county that does not want to participate in the recount. The lawsuit I'm talking about here is trying to impose a temporary restraining in order to start the recount immediately(the Greens tried this and failed because they could not be "harmed" with an incomplete recount since the Greens would not gain any electoral votes, as Kerry could). Its two different things and they're both very important! The current timeline is impossible (Blackwell is set to start the recount on the 11th while the safe harbor day when Ohio is supposed to choose its electors is on the 7th and the day that all the electors choose the President is the 13th, while a full hand count will take at least 10 days!), this is why the Greens wanted to have a lawsuit to expedite it! The other lawsuit happened because a county sued to opt out.
If you've seen this action before, I've added a sample letter you can use as a template for your own letter and phone #'s, faxes, etc. if you want to do more. You can also find all of this along with other actions to facilitate recounts and investigate vote fraud--and a new section on vote fraud protests around the country--see link on top--at http://stolenelection2004.com/alerts.html
Since the Judge said the Greens don't have standing to sue to start the recount immediately, only Kerry can get the recount going by initiating a lawsuit before Blackwell runs the clock out. And that's exactly what will happen unless we all speak out now. Here's a one click page where you can send your personal message on election fraud to the Kerry campaign, the DNC, and the GAO at the same time
http://www.thepen.us/e-fraud.html
Tell Senator Kerry he must act now to fight for us all by requesting a temporary restraining order (this is a legal term that would get the counties to start the recount immediately see http://www.votecobb.net/pdf/tromotion.pdf ) for which the groundwork is already laid by the Greens.
--Sample letter: "I strongly urge Senator Kerry to initiate a temporary restraining order in Ohio so as to start the recount immediately in order to make every vote count since there have been many voting anomalies and allegations of voting fraud and the current recount timeline would not allow enough time to do a full manual count (which is estimated to take at least 10 days) before the deadlines when Ohio must officially participate in choosing the next President. I also urge Kerry, the DNC, and the GAO to investigate all allegations of voting fraud right away."
--If you wanted to do more you can contact: http://www.democrats.org/contact for the DNC; Kerry Campaign (not sure if still active) 202-712-3000, try ext.5377 ;Ohio Democrats 614-221-6563 (voice) 614-221-0721 (fax) dan@ohiodems.org
--And keep checking this site for updated action alerts for vote fraud protests, to help investigate fraud, facilitate recounts, and encourage voting reforms that hopefully will reverse the coup or at least stop this from happening again!
http://www.stolenelection2004.com/alerts.html
Thanks, Cheryl (you can reach me directly at sguttman-at-nyc.rr.com, replace -at- with @)
Narrative IS Necessary
We've been seeing some great efforts to audit the (s)election results. Yours is certainly top tier.
But I think something necessary is missing that could help engage other in the effort and even inform our actions. Particularly your FOIA requests.
I think all, who like you and I, refuse to let this second act of treason pass need to understand and project the narrative form what actions were taken to steal the election this time. How differed from the last time: to try to avoid both the detection and the successful legal challenge that they had to overcome last time.
The narrative is this:
>>What they learned for last time is that simply spoiling ballots won't get the job done. That can be detected and remedied. They need a more comprehensive plan of attack. Their plan was to reduce the number of Dems who were able to vote: long lines, faulty machines, late absentee ballot delivery, dumping college registrations, etc.. But in ways that defy quantification.
What they added this time was also a false "turnout" on their own side. This involved pumping an extra 10-15K "votes" in counties where they could get away with it. Part of the scam was to file large numbers of false registrations. Recall they spent weeks calling this a "crime" by Dems. Why would they think is such a bad crime? It's not as if Dick Tracy was going to show up to vote. They considered this a crime because they were doing it with criminal intent. So their false turnout would not be detected.<<
Why this is MOST important is that we MUST also demand that registration lists be released. And that they be audited by contacting real people, and not just assuming that Rep claims of "culture voters" or "gay marriage voters" or "the success of our Reg/GOTV" are factually accurate. This method of registering and voting non-persons is something they are very experienced at, particularly in FL. Just look at the results from Escambia, Duval, Clay, Collier, and other Rep dominated counties. Their "results" defy common sense and must be audited/confirmed.
But please, help disseminate the "narrative" of this conspiracy. It makes it much easier for people to map the individual incidents and hold fast to their belief in a second treasonous election theft.
It will be invaluable if (as is most likely) we need to make our stand on a political/p.r. basis come Jan. 6th 2005. That is the day that ANY and ALL crimes against our democracy can be rendered null by simply getting the public and congress to apply a just result by disallowing tainted electors.
Thank you for your stellar efforts.
over 90% Ohio provisionals 2000 and 2002 were counted
They were trying to spin it like crazy all Election Eve and ever since...provisionals are not usually bad votes in Ohio. Check out the numbers in the quote below and the link to the Dispatch...that's Blackwell's spokesperson quoted. More than 90% of provisionals were counted in Ohio in 2000 and 20002. I looked this up early Wed when returning from manning Copley network news risers from 1 p.m. till 3 a.m. I called CNN shrieking to get the numbers right and not state they would, of course, mainly be "bad votes" so why count them. Finally Hemmer stated it on air. One minute later an Ohio spokesperson for the repubs came on spinning away about how provisionals hadn't been good in the past in...Illinois!!!!! And CNN didn't say hey, aren't we in Ohio where they usually are good? Check it out...
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/election/election-local.php?story=dispat...
"Observers say there’s no way to predict how many voters may be affected, and LoParo disputes the suggestion that it will be a large number. He noted that 93 percent of the 54,137 provisional ballots cast in the 2002 general election were counted, and 91 percent of the nearly 100,000 ballots in 2000."
We Must Urge Kerry To Do Recount!
What people have got to start understanding is that Kerry's concession is political (and psychological) not legal. Kerry still has until 5 days after counting the provisional ballots (which will not start until 11 days after the election) to decide to do a recount!
I'm hoping that with mounting evidence of fraud and calls/faxes and petition (I'm working on this) Kerry will ask for a recount. If not a citizen group in Ohio and perhaps the election protection people will contest and hopefully get a recount. But if Kerry just asks he gets it--he doesn't have to prove anything and he has the money for a recount. This is the best way so I think the number one thing is to encourage him to do so. Greg Palast has looked at the data and concluded that once legal provisional ballots (which will be counted no matter what )and legal spoiled ballots (in a recount) are added up, Kerry wins Ohio and the election.
We must all call/fax Kerry and urge him to take up this option
(202) 224-2742 - Phone
(202) 224-8525 - Fax
I am working on an online petition to urge Kerry to do a recount in Ohio.
There is also an Ohio group that will challenge the election if Kerry doesn't
You can contact Juliet Steward at
513.531.9017
513.807.9017
juliet067@aol.com
There is also a website http://www.recountohio.org/ that has a petition to Blackwell to recount the vote
Thanks, Cheryl (you can reach me directly at sguttman-at-nyc.rr.com, replace -at- with @)
EMAIL FROM DC LAWYER CYNTHIA BUTLER
I received numerous copies of the e-mail below, so I called Cynthia Butler to get more information.
Cynthia confirmed that she is the author of this message, and she did work for the DCCC in Texas this fall, where she did witness voting problems.
She also confirmed that she spoke with Cameron Kerry and told him about these problems. He did not, however, indicate that John Kerry would "unconcede."
Therefore the headline is misleading: Kerry has not stated he would "unconcede."
Cynthia is trying to collect as much evidence of voting interference as she can. Much of that data has already been collected for Ohio (2580 incidents), Florida, (3592 incidents), and all of the other states.
In order to persuade Kerry to pursue a recount, Democratic activists need to document enough errors and fraud to eliminate Bush's election night lead of 136,000.
I am tracking all significant (1000+) items at the top of this blog.
Recount legalities
I spoke with some Ohio election lawyers and this is my understanding of the recount process. (Note: I am not a lawyer.)
The official count is conducted 11-15 days post-election, so that's 11/13-17.
That count will include 3 categories of ballots:
a) Ohio: registered voters who moved without updating their registration, who are allowed to vote (and can update their address while voting)
b) HAVA: registration "glitch," such as not appearing on voter list, or first time voter without proof of residence
When that is completed, Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell will certify the result.
There are then 2 kinds of recounts: free or paid.
A recount includes full access to documentation, including poll books, programs, and ballots. It might be possible to get independent testing of software, but that is a new issue.
A recount must be requested within 5 days of certification, so that's 11/18-23. The recount must be conducted within 10 days of the request, so that's 11/19-12/3.
After the recount, a contest can be filed by either the losing candidate or 25 electors. A contest is filed in OH Supreme Court, where it is decided by the Chief Justice alone. (The Chief Justice is a Republican.)
In a contest, the candidate must demonstrate election irregularities that could have affected enough votes to change the outcome. The burden of proof is "clear and convincing" evidence.
The problem for a contest is that it runs up against the Electoral College calendar: any disputes over choosing Electors must be resolved by 12/7; the Electoral College meets on 12/13.
Here is a more detailed legal summary by Moritz Law Professor Dan Tokaji.
A new group called RecountOhio.org has a petition to SoS Ken Blackwell urging him to recount the votes, but this petition has no legal significance.
I checked the Ohio Dem site
Can someone explain that just because they didn't use the newer Diebold machines (according to the Ohio Democratic Party site), all is well? It seems to me that several years ago when the Orwellian HAVA was passed, ChoicePoint, who had the Bin Ladens as investors, wanted into the voting machine business. In fact, it was CP that helped scrub the FLA voter roles. And I get to my point: Bev Harris has it right - anywhere there were machines, there was probably bushwah going on. Can someone tell Oh-high-oh that?
Has all of this information been sent to vri@dnc.org?
I don't assume the dnc lawyers have time to check the entire internet. I suspect Bob Fertik has found stuff that they need to know about.
Cameron Kerry has asked that information on voter fraud be sent to vri@dnc.org.
Ongoing lawsuits
From Dan Hoffheimer:
Monday, Nov. 8
The Kerry-Edwards campaign and the Democratic Party in Ohio are involved in several pending lawsuits that are likely to go on, at least until we are certain that the provisional ballots are properly counted. John Kerry wants to see that all Ohioans' proper ballots are counted, even if it does not change the outcome of the election. I am personally committed to meeting his expection and spent all of today on this issue and will likely be working on this close to fulltime for the foreseeable future. This includes the class actions that we already have pending. There is nothing to prevent other interested parties from filing their own lawsuits. I have told this to the press, so you may share this email with your friends as you may wish.
Daniel J. Hoffheimer
State Legal Counsel
OHIO Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc.
YOU LIBS
Rather than come up with a way to actually go out, reform themselves and try to win the votes of the American people, they are still stuck with this notion the American people did vote for them, "It just can't be that we lost! There has to be fraud."
They can't come to grips with the fact people are voting against them now, and so they're stuck in this. I say: "Let them." I say if they want to waste their time and live this way, laugh at them.
Your comments and suggestions
Your comments and suggestions are noted. Take care however, we only tolerate trolls on this site up to a point. You are very close to going over the line.
Have a nice day, and smile -- we welcome criticism, but not ridicule. This is a privately-owned and run site for Democrats.
re: Your comments
Too late Bill, he's been terminated!
"I love God, but his fan club is freekin meshuggeneh!."
SO ARE THE BOY SCOUTS BUT THE
THE BOY SCOUTS ARE A PRIVATE COMPANY, SO TO SPEAK, BUT THE DEMONCRATS WANT TO FORCE THEIR AGENDA ONTO THEM. DEMONCRATS ARE NOTHING BUT HYPOCRITES.
Igorance, ignorance and probl
Igorance, ignorance and problems operating a keyboard to boot.
If the Boy Scouts decide to decline all direct and indirect public funding, which is significant, then they'll be able to do whatever they want. They can use the religion of their leaders to force their kooky religious beliefs onto employees and volunteers the way pseudo-religious schools do: fire teachers for getting a divorce (catholic schools) or taking their kids trick-or-treating (BJ-affiliated schools).
The whole boy scouts thing was a little too gay for me, anyway. We had something similar in the SBC and did joint things with the girls' group. The SBC was good, until that facker Fallwell started trying to influence it and fundamentalists started taking over.
For Bush2004 and other Bush v
For Bush2004 and other Bush voters:
I'll say what I said to two guys at a bar last night. If you voted for Bush, you should volunteer to fight in the next two wars he starts. Don't worry about age or ability, the troop shortage is so bad that the military will take anybody now. You can get a waiver for much of the physical fitness requirements and they are even training amputees to operate tanks, APCs, etc. See Hackworth's blog, www.sftt.org
Since you will all be partially responsible for perpetual war and the burning of our country's values, you should pay part of the price.
And I say get off of this sit
And I say get off of this site and laugh at liberals somewhere else.
Uh-huh
"Excuse me, I didn't hear what you said"
Call to Action: Let Democracy Ring the Capitol on December 11th!
This is a Call to Action. It is time to remind this nation and the world that this Government was formed by the People, not politicians, judges, or media pundits. We've broken free of a King George before, and by God, we need to wake up and do something NOW before we lose our democracy. Here's what we will do:
1. On Saturday, December 11th, before the Electoral College convenes in each of the States on Monday, the 13th, we the People will peacefully assemble in a huge symbolic ring around the Capitol in Washington, D.C.
2. We will call upon the Electors to convene, then recess and temporarily postpone their presidential vote.
3. We will call on the four living ex-Presidents (Ford, Carter, Bush-41 and Clinton--two Democrats and two Republicans), to convene and review the grave evidence of election fraud and disenfranchisement.
4. By noon Friday, December 17, if all four former Presidents can certify to the People of the United States that these elections were fair and free, and the outcome is not in dispute, we will stand down. The Electors can cast their ballots in time to meet the December 22 deadline for submission of their votes to the Senate.
5. If the former Presidents cannot so certify, we will call for new elections to be held nationwide for the Presidential race, within one month. (The inauguration party may need to be postponed a few days.) Candidates will be permitted to campaign only in the final week before the new elections.
6. The new elections will use paper ballots that will be hand-counted. No machines or computers will be allowed.
7. The process will be transparent. Representatives of each candidate will be permitted to observe vote counting, and it will be recorded and made immediately available to the public.
Begin the organization now. Send this message to everyone you know. If hundreds of thousands, or even millions of Americans show up on December 11th peacefully surrounding the Capitol, that singular act might change the course of history. We owe it to all those who have died for our freedoms to stand together now. Let Democracy Ring the Capitol!
Samuel Adams
The New Sons & Daughters of Liberty
Math?
Hi Bob, et al,
As much as I'd like to get excited by your daily reports, the math is confusing to me... I'm seeing the Bush margin cut down in OH to near 100,000 - yet the remaining uncounted ballots are under that figure. If I'm missing something, please elaborate.
Thanks.
There needs to be a demand for poll books
In both Franklin and Mahoning counties in particular. Since there is no paper trail, we will need to go over each and every person who voted, come up with totals, and check against the final tallies. It is guaranteed the numbers won't add up, then we can push for a revote through mass protest. That is the plan as I see it.
count everything {frome france}
The problem comes in when you face electronic voting machines that don't give you any paper and wich can be ruled by secret forces (like in the casinos), the best way to make sure of the result would be to use papers or any other hand made ballot.
There could be any dark forces from anykind that may rule machines ...
100 million or more is not that much to count even if it takes time to do it .
Electronic machine would be fare if it d give you a personal number (secret code) or password that allow you to verify your vote later on.
Why ain't it so ?
Considering the number of votes, if it would be able for someone to redirect the vote through the machine that means the fraud add one vote to the desired candidate but still take one off the other candidate ...
Another thing is that if you can prove deep fraud has been comited and it happenned several times in different ways, you never know how vicious the fraud was, ...
By the way why is it so expensive to recount any republican vote or even to redo another election, campaign is expensive but do the vote is not that much , i m sure you can find anyone that may work for free to make sure the election goes fare on election day ...
Senator Email Addresses. Contact them!!!!!
AZ: John McCain (R) http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Contact.Home
AR: Blanche Lincoln (D) http://lincoln.senate.gov/webform.html
AR: Mark Pryor (D) http://pryor.senate.gov/email_webform.htm
CA: Barbara Boxer (D) http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm
CT: Chris Dodd (D) http://dodd.senate.gov/webmail/form-opinion.html
MN: Mark Dayton (D) http://dayton.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
CT: Joe Lieberman (D http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue
DE: Tom Carper (D) http://carper.senate.gov/email-form.html
FL: Bill Nelson (D) billnelson.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm#email
HI: Daniel Inouye (D) http://inouye.senate.gov/webform.html
IA: Charles Grassley (R) http://grassley.senate.gov/webform.htm
IA: Tom Harkin (D) http://harkin.senate.gov/contact/contact.cfm
IL: Richard Durbin (D) http://durbin.senate.gov/sitepages/contact.htm
IN: Evan Bayh (D) http://bayh.senate.gov/LegForm.htm
IL: Barack Obama (D) info@obamaforillinois.com
LA: Mary Landrieu (D) http://landrieu.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
MA: Ted Kennedy (D) http://kennedy.senate.gov/contact.html
MA: John Kerry (D)
http://kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/contact/email.html
CO: Ken Salazar (D) frontdesk@salazarforcolorado.com
MD: Barbara Mikulski D) http://mikulski.senate.gov/mailform.html
MD: Paul Sarbanes (D) http://sarbanes.senate.gov/pages/email.html
MI: Carl Levin (D) http://levin.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm,
blog@salazarforcolorado.com"
ME: Susan Collins (R) http://collins.senate.gov/low/contactemail.htm
WV: Robert Byrd (D) http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_email.html
WA: Patty Murray (D) http://murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm
WI: Herb Kohl (D) http://kohl.senate.gov/gen_contact.html
WA: Maria Cantwell (D) http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/index.html
VT: Jim Jeffords (I) http://jeffords.senate.gov/contact-form.html
SD: Tim Johnson (D) johnson.senate.gov/ContactPage/emailform.htm
RI: Jack Reed (D) http://reed.senate.gov/form-opinion.htm
RI: Lincoln Chafee (R) http://chafee.senate.gov/webform.htm
OR: Ron Wyden (D) http://wyden.senate.gov/contact/
NY: Chuck Schumer (D) http://schumer.senate.gov/webform.html
NY: Hillary Clinton (D) http://clinton.senate.gov/email_form.html
NV: Harry Reid (D) http://reid.senate.gov/email_form.cfm
NJ: Frank Lautenberg D) http://lautenberg.senate.gov/webform.html
NJ: Jon Corzine (D) http://corzine.senate.gov/contact.cfm
NE: Ben Nelson (D) http://bennelson.senate.gov/email.html
NE: Chuck Hagel (R) N/A
ND: Kent Conrad (D) http://conrad.senate.gov/webform.html
MI: Debbie Stabenow (D) http://stabenow.senate.gov/email.htm
ME: Susan Collins (R) http://collins.senate.gov/low/contactemail.htm
WV: Jay Rockefeller (D) senator@rockefeller.senate.gov
WI: Russ Feingold (D) russell_feingold@feingold.senate.gov
VT: Pat Leahy (D) senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov
DE: Joe Biden (D) senator@biden.senate.gov
HI: Dan Akaka (D) senator@akaka.senate.gov
IN: Richard Lugar (R) senator_lugar@lugar.senate.gov
ME: Olympia Snowe (R) olympia@snowe.senate.gov
ND: Byron Dorgan (D) senator@dorgan.senate.gov
This is what I wrote:
Dear Senator,
As you are probably aware, allegations as well as evidence of election fraud in Ohio are mounting with each passing day. Each day that passes brings us one step closer to inauguration day. We must, as party, use our political clout and mandate to prevent a repeat of the 2000 Florida debacle. There is a chance that John Kerry is our president. Until this chance has been proven or discredited, democrats must continue fighting.
There are movements (http://democrats.com) underway right now to lobby Senators to challenge Ohio's electors on Jan. 6 2005. All we need is just one Senator with the courage to stand up and fight for the truth.
Senator, the fight is not over yet. We cannot give up in this moment of truth. We cannot shrink from our responsibility as protectors of truth and justice for the sake of 'moving on as a nation'. The integrity of truth and justice as well as the sanctity of our election process and right to vote overrule the need to 'move on'. We must fight to maintain the integrity of these institutions as pillars of our democracy or we run the risk of making a mockery of our 'Democratic-Republic' and the values which we feel, ironically enough, are worthy of imposing on other sovereign nations.
We must not allow apathy to infiltrate this party. Assurances of future investigations, legislation and election reform will accomplish with respect to what is happening now, ‘on the ground’ in Ohio. If we allow that man to be inaugurated, nearly half of the citizens in this nation will have no representation in the federal government for the next two years. Think about that. I mean really think about it. Do congressional democrats really have the power to withstand the republican majority? With a republican majority in all branches of government the checks and balances system will be all but obliterated. Is that what you want, despite the fact that we are in a perfect position to do something about it now?
We all fought very hard to make John Kerry our president and we were all equally devastated, to the point of depression, after John Kerry conceded on Nov. 3rd. After that day, many of us lost hope. But a tiny flame is still alive in Ohio. Let’s kindle that tiny flame into a national firestorm. Let us dispel this notion that republican ideals represent a majority of American opinions. Remember, there are 57,313,461 people out there just waiting for the opportunity to continue this fight until the bitter end. Please join your countrymen and fight. Please, Senator, support this effort or help us find another Senator who will.
With great respect,
Justin Bell
Great job, Justin
Justin, I loved your letter, and your giving the senators' email addresses.
Best regards,
Ray
could you email the above comment to me?
Justin
If you could email the above to me I would love to post it on my blog.
Thanks.
Ray
http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com
How can we get this out to other State Dem Committees?
http://www.dpo.org/news/documents/1780.html
Please Mr. Beckerman,
Is there any way we can get this action out across the nation to all democratic committees? I know it's not binding, but it might put some pressure on our Senators?
JoMama.
Procedures for Selection by House on January 6th
Bob I have a question, was wondering if you might be able to answer it for me. The Constitution provides that, in the absence of a majority of electors for either candidate, "then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote...." How is it determined what each state's vote shall be?
RE:2) Find just one senator
What about John Kerry(a sitting senator)? If he is not willing to contest his own election then I wonder what type of president he would make. I remember him promising to reach across the isle to evil Republicans. Perhaps that has already happened.
killerbee1
Still posting this, huh? And apparently still haven't read the information offered, either. Might you be a TROLL???
How can we get other state dem committees to do this?
http://www.dpo.org/news/documents/1780.html
Is there any way we can get this action out across the nation to all democratic committees? I know it's not binding, but it might put some pressure on our Senators?
JoMama.
Post Election Map
http://www.projectsomewhere.com/img/1/5506,534,800,80.jpg
i made it...but i bet it will pass
How can we get other DNC's to do this?
http://www.dpo.org/news/documents/1780.html
Please Mr. Fertik,
Is there any way we can get this action out across the nation to all democratic committees? I know it's not binding, but it might put some pressure on our Senators?
JoMama.
The Democratic National Committee's Statement on Ohio 2004
At what piont in time, will the DNC make a definitive & final statement on the Ohio 2004 Final Vote Count? A 'deafening' silence is occurring, this is not Senator Kerry's decision but a matter which goes to the very core of our governmental process. When is the lead for this inquiry going to be taken full inhand by the DNC, this with due respect for Rep. Conyers' and other leaders' good efforts on this matter?
Leadership and responsibility have to be excerized on a regular basis to retain it's shape and function. "Sunshine Patriots" do not win the field or are they reliable enough to be entrusted with sentry duty.
DNC don't jeopardize your apparent'preferred' work assignment as collector of the monies!
"Paging, Doctor Dean, Doctor Dean, you are awaited in the operating room, Code 'Blue'"
Andy Stephenson's run-in with Sen. Lautenberg Jan. 5
This is a direct quote from Andy Stephenson, aka god_bush_n_cheney, as of today:
'To the people of NJ from Andy Stephenson. I just spoke with Frank Lautenberg in the elevator. I first asked Senator Lautenberg if he had a few minutes to talk to me. He said yes. I began to talk to him about the voting issues I found in FL and OH. He couldn't get out of the elevator quick enough. Being the tenacious person I am, I followed him out and asked, "Senator won't you please look at the evidence? Won't you please stand with Mr. Conyers? Won't you please stand for the American People?" Mr. Lautenberg said, "I don't want to hear this." I said, "Mr. Lautenberg, I have seen the evidence, I've seen it with my own eyes. I discovered it." To which he replied, "If you don't leave me alone and stop harassing me, I will have you arrested." I said to Mr. Lautenberg, "If you stand with Mr. Conyers, you will be a hero." He said "I am a hero. I was in World War II." I replied, "You won't be in the eyes of the American people if you don't stand up with Mr. Conyers tomorrow.'