Isn't it amazing that the day after Attorney General Spitzer agreed to accept the complaint from the 9/11 truth commission, alleging that bush and gang were complicit, that Osama comes forward and clears bush by claiming that he directed the attacks. Osama bin Forgotten.
Two years after having read where Osama denied any involvement in 9/11, they wag the dog and everyone believes that it is him, claiming to be the culprit, and thereby taking the heat off the bush gang.
Most of my friends and I are rooting for Kerry. The outcome of this election affects the world, so we wish you good luck in restoring sanity and competency to your administration.Been to U.S. severaltimes and know how great a country your's is, but it's losing respect, due to the incumbent and his rabble. Very topical here. Again, GOOD LUCK!
Clearly there is a huge discrepancy between the election results and the exit polls. How do we pursue this fraud? I am heartsick that our country has been stolen from us.
clearly there is a huge discrepancy. What can we do? WE are on a downward spiral! These war mongers are going to get us killed! Who in the world is behind this?
Who in the world is behind this, you ask. Republicans, of course. Now, in their delusional trickery-based thinking, they believe they have a mandate. A stolen election does not equal a mandate. Any reader here remember the 60's? Anyone remember what a groundswell from the people achieved back then? Whoever suggested an inaugural protest is on the right track. We still reserve the right of free speech, don't we? If we don't use it, we are surely about to lose it.
It is believeable that fraud is behind the results. But taking it a step further, and assuming that Bush and buddies don't destroy this country in the next four years (and I do not assume that) we might recover. But the results seem to be pointing to something far worse: perhaps a true reflection of the shallowness, greed and stupidity of at least 50% of the American voters. If the other 50% see clearly, that is not enough. We can hardly wait to spend more timing crying and complaining. What effective steps can be taken? How about a media counterpoint to TV stations like Fox? Isn't Ted Turner around these days? Maybe he would like to take off some of those old movies and put on some decent political programming from the left? Those sleeping 50% need to wake up.
Clearly there is a huge discrepancy between the election results and the exit polls. How do we pursue this fraud? I am heartsick that our country has been stolen from us.
we need to find a new different kind of candidate now who is is not connected to system and begin o support him or her now. this candidate has to be able to awaken the red states from their sheep herd slumber. we also need a television show like
O'reily's and Hannity and Scarabourgh. This is essential. We need to break down corporate conformism.
The election may have been stolen by the same people who cooked the books for Enron etc. The e-voting machines are a nest of conflicts, which include Northrop Grummen, Lockheed Martin, Electronic Data Systems (EDS) and Accenture. Why are major defense contractors getting involved in the American electoral system?
Accenture was also once known as Andersen Consulting, a part of Arthur Andersen. They are presently listed as an offshore corporation. The same Arthur Andersen that cooked the books for Enron and other corporate scandel-ridden villians. Please check the website for Election.com and especially the websites Http://www.inthesetimes.com and http://www.rense.com "Fixed- The Stealing of Another Election." There needs to be a major investigation, because the answers are very likely to begin here.
Dear Senator Kerry,
First, I need to tell you and your family, how sorry I was to see the campaign 'fail.' But also, I need to tell you, that in a very real sense, we did not fail. Not only did we set the record for turn out for a defeated candidate, but we have learned a great deal from this campaign and we will prevail in the future, because of that new knowledge.
Second, I feel an intense need to thank you and Mrs. Kerry for all you have done for the good of ourselves and the generations to come. Your message will not be forgotten.
I have to admit, that I have never volunteered for a campaign before and I have never given much money. I did so this time out of a sense of urgency and because I hoped you would be the next FDR and because I was certain that your wife would be the next Eleanor Roosevelt.
I want to finish by pleading with both of you to remain leaders in the struggle for peace, justice and equality, which will fill the next four years.
Thank you for all your effort and for just being you.
David J. Ginsberg, MD
Here we go again. But it has to be said, "Kerry was the winner of this Presidential Election 2004. Bluntly the election was stolen . . . again . . . by “chads” and inferior “electronics” and a term politely and politically labeled “Spoilage!!" Lets first define each of these terms.
SPOLIAGE- Typically nation wide about 3 percent of votes cast are voided. These are known as “Spoilage” in election jargon because these ballots cast are inconclusive. Considering what happened in Florida in election 2000 and studies of elections past these ballots were not counted
CHADS- votes lost were cast on punch cards where the hole wasn't punched through completely leaving a "hanging chad," or was “punched extra times” by mistake.
ELECTRONIC VOTING EQUIPMENT- Votes cast using “Computer Touch Screen” equipment supplied essentially by companies as Diebold.
Notably. This election 2004 was won or lost, depending if you are Republican or Democrat, in the official votes in the states of Ohio and Florida (TV Broad Cast Traditional Media, November 3, 2004), When and if we can accept this then the other logic is easily understood.
First, addressing “Touch Screen Electronic Voting.” A group of computer hackers were suffering websites, when they discovered that Diebold had an unsecured FTP site. One of the boys noted the fact on his website
Further, A small group of activists in Georgia worked with Harris. One of them, Roxanne Jekot, who runs a software consulting firm, analyzed "almost every line" of the Diebold source code and similar to the hackers, found many ways to change vote totals there and also in the Microsoft operating code. It was said that the software is totally junk. It is what they called “sold vaporware." Determined to get peer review of what she was finding, Jekot approached David Dill, the Stanford computer science professor (RONNIE DUGGER, MotherJones.com News, August 16, 2004 issue). They add a conformation to these findings.
If the Republican Party’s ties to Diebold and ES&S are enough to cause serious concern, argued election reform activist Beverly Harris. The companies' past performances and current practices should be. Investigated. The author of Black Box Voting, and the woman behind the BlackBoxVoting.com web site provided this opinion. All of this uncertainty about the “touch screen voting” has brought about the concern for security and reliable accuracy. (www.civilrights.org/issues/voting/lccr_brennan_report.pdf.)
Ohio is one of the last states in America to still use the vote-spoiling punch-card machines. And the Secretary of State of Ohio, J. Kenneth Blackwell, noted before the election that there was the possibility that it would be a close one.
Republicans won Ohio by 136,483 votes. Typically in the United States, about 3 percent of votes cast are voided "known as spoilage in election jargon "because the ballots cast are inconclusive. Considering what previously happened in Florida in 2000 and an analysis of elections past, if Ohio discarded ballots were counted; Kerry would have won the state. (Greg Palast, contributing editor to Harper's magazine, investigated the manipulation of the vote for BBC Television's Newsnight) Today it is reported there were a total of 247,672 votes not counted in Ohio, If you add together the 92,672, the 136,483 uncounted votes by mail or absentee votes discarded votes plus the 155,000 provisional ballots we get approximately 244,655 total un counted Ohio votes! Since these votes were in mostly minority and Democratic polling places, it is easy to see that in a recount the probably that Democrats would not get the 136,483 vote to over come their lost is inconceivable.
Although the exit polls showed that most voters in Ohio punched cards for Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was predictable and it was predicted. (TomPaine.com, "An Election Spoiled Rotten,” November 1. 2004) This means that the election in Ohio was not decided by the voters but by something called uncounted "Spoilage," Deliberate “Spoilage.” More remarkably not all votes spoil equally. Most of those votes, say every official report, come from African-American and minority precincts! (Ohio records on voting profiles, November, 2004) This is where Kerry really won Ohio and the Presidency!!
Further, in Florida it was discovered that the computer station had already about 10,000.00 votes recorded for Bush before any voting had started. How many of these Die Bold Machines had similar problems (were similarly rigged?) It is accepted that about two percent of the Florida votes were not counted (similar to nation wide numbers). This is equal to the margin of victory of Republicans in State elections (e.g. both Betty Castor and Kerry)(MORE!!)
But here is the stickler. Moreover, African American and other minority citizens will have cast the majority of ballots thrown out. If all things were normal and fair this would be nearly 233 thousand or three percent of the approximately 7.45 million votes (The Florida Secretary of States Office Report) cast in Florida tossed out from Tuesday's election. Florida is known to be terribly typical.
When writing an analysis like this it is always a danger to fall into the category of” There goes Scruggs again” similar to ”There goes Neda again” or "There goes Gnatt of TH Gnatt Report again" or Satan would say “There goes Jesus again,“ This is followed by, “What do you expect?” That is the risk good Americans must take for the greater good of our Democratic Republic and its remarkable Constitution. We must be as committed as the CATOs’ and the Karl Roves about our mutual destinies. But Karl knows that only a fool with nothing much to loose would really challenge this election after the controversial 2000 debacle. But hold to the truth. It is your friend and your best ally! If you have this malady for truth, physicians have on "Procedures, shots nor pill" to change you.
An obvious and critical question is, “Why don’t the losers challenge the clear fouls in these elections.” I am seriously suggesting that we can find the answer in the common base of the accepted leadership of these Presidential candidates. They are both and usually products of the “Skulls and Bones,” ”fraternity/society” of Yale. A basic covenant is that, “Members do not challenge the accepted schemes by which all members are bound to use to gain the power of their rightful world leadership." Therefore, they cannot file the court proceedings that will once and for all destroy the accepted devious vehicles accepted as a part of the rise to success because It these very vehicles they themselves will some day need in their path to World Domination/The new world Order”. (Antony C. Sutton, America’s Secret Establishment, 1986)
So I say again and finally, “KERRY WON THE PRESIDENCY. WE WUZ ROBBED AGAIN!!”
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Osama Clears Bush
Isn't it amazing that the day after Attorney General Spitzer agreed to accept the complaint from the 9/11 truth commission, alleging that bush and gang were complicit, that Osama comes forward and clears bush by claiming that he directed the attacks. Osama bin Forgotten.
Two years after having read where Osama denied any involvement in 9/11, they wag the dog and everyone believes that it is him, claiming to be the culprit, and thereby taking the heat off the bush gang.
New Alqaeda Threat
Look at this article at this website. Normal media would jump all over this. Where is that elevated terrorist level???
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=11787
They are going to make us pay for electing Bush. Half of this country didn't vote for him. I don't want to pay. The Republican's should pay.
Election 04
Most of my friends and I are rooting for Kerry. The outcome of this election affects the world, so we wish you good luck in restoring sanity and competency to your administration.Been to U.S. severaltimes and know how great a country your's is, but it's losing respect, due to the incumbent and his rabble. Very topical here. Again, GOOD LUCK!
Clearly there is a huge discr
Clearly there is a huge discrepancy between the election results and the exit polls. How do we pursue this fraud? I am heartsick that our country has been stolen from us.
clearly there is a huge discr
clearly there is a huge discrepancy. What can we do? WE are on a downward spiral! These war mongers are going to get us killed! Who in the world is behind this?
Clearly / Who in the world, etc....
Who in the world is behind this, you ask. Republicans, of course. Now, in their delusional trickery-based thinking, they believe they have a mandate. A stolen election does not equal a mandate. Any reader here remember the 60's? Anyone remember what a groundswell from the people achieved back then? Whoever suggested an inaugural protest is on the right track. We still reserve the right of free speech, don't we? If we don't use it, we are surely about to lose it.
A Step Further
It is believeable that fraud is behind the results. But taking it a step further, and assuming that Bush and buddies don't destroy this country in the next four years (and I do not assume that) we might recover. But the results seem to be pointing to something far worse: perhaps a true reflection of the shallowness, greed and stupidity of at least 50% of the American voters. If the other 50% see clearly, that is not enough. We can hardly wait to spend more timing crying and complaining. What effective steps can be taken? How about a media counterpoint to TV stations like Fox? Isn't Ted Turner around these days? Maybe he would like to take off some of those old movies and put on some decent political programming from the left? Those sleeping 50% need to wake up.
Clearly there is a huge discr
Clearly there is a huge discrepancy between the election results and the exit polls. How do we pursue this fraud? I am heartsick that our country has been stolen from us.
new different candidate now.
we need to find a new different kind of candidate now who is is not connected to system and begin o support him or her now. this candidate has to be able to awaken the red states from their sheep herd slumber. we also need a television show like
O'reily's and Hannity and Scarabourgh. This is essential. We need to break down corporate conformism.
SO MAD; OUR COUNTRY SAD SHAPE!
I am disgusted with the lack of memory our nation has and the ignorance it shows!!
How are the Republicans getting away with this a second time?
Do I like the polling system.....
Where are the other polls?
~~~~~~~~
LiberalGirl
mythoughtsarehalf-baked
Election Stolen- Same Players!
The election may have been stolen by the same people who cooked the books for Enron etc. The e-voting machines are a nest of conflicts, which include Northrop Grummen, Lockheed Martin, Electronic Data Systems (EDS) and Accenture. Why are major defense contractors getting involved in the American electoral system?
Accenture was also once known as Andersen Consulting, a part of Arthur Andersen. They are presently listed as an offshore corporation. The same Arthur Andersen that cooked the books for Enron and other corporate scandel-ridden villians. Please check the website for Election.com and especially the websites Http://www.inthesetimes.com and http://www.rense.com "Fixed- The Stealing of Another Election." There needs to be a major investigation, because the answers are very likely to begin here.
John F Kerry
Dear Senator Kerry,
First, I need to tell you and your family, how sorry I was to see the campaign 'fail.' But also, I need to tell you, that in a very real sense, we did not fail. Not only did we set the record for turn out for a defeated candidate, but we have learned a great deal from this campaign and we will prevail in the future, because of that new knowledge.
Second, I feel an intense need to thank you and Mrs. Kerry for all you have done for the good of ourselves and the generations to come. Your message will not be forgotten.
I have to admit, that I have never volunteered for a campaign before and I have never given much money. I did so this time out of a sense of urgency and because I hoped you would be the next FDR and because I was certain that your wife would be the next Eleanor Roosevelt.
I want to finish by pleading with both of you to remain leaders in the struggle for peace, justice and equality, which will fill the next four years.
Thank you for all your effort and for just being you.
David J. Ginsberg, MD
THE TRUTH IS THAT KERRY DID W
THE TRUTH IS THAT KERRY DID WIN!!!
Here we go again. But it has to be said, "Kerry was the winner of this Presidential Election 2004. Bluntly the election was stolen . . . again . . . by “chads” and inferior “electronics” and a term politely and politically labeled “Spoilage!!" Lets first define each of these terms.
SPOLIAGE- Typically nation wide about 3 percent of votes cast are voided. These are known as “Spoilage” in election jargon because these ballots cast are inconclusive. Considering what happened in Florida in election 2000 and studies of elections past these ballots were not counted
CHADS- votes lost were cast on punch cards where the hole wasn't punched through completely leaving a "hanging chad," or was “punched extra times” by mistake.
ELECTRONIC VOTING EQUIPMENT- Votes cast using “Computer Touch Screen” equipment supplied essentially by companies as Diebold.
Notably. This election 2004 was won or lost, depending if you are Republican or Democrat, in the official votes in the states of Ohio and Florida (TV Broad Cast Traditional Media, November 3, 2004), When and if we can accept this then the other logic is easily understood.
First, addressing “Touch Screen Electronic Voting.” A group of computer hackers were suffering websites, when they discovered that Diebold had an unsecured FTP site. One of the boys noted the fact on his website
Further, A small group of activists in Georgia worked with Harris. One of them, Roxanne Jekot, who runs a software consulting firm, analyzed "almost every line" of the Diebold source code and similar to the hackers, found many ways to change vote totals there and also in the Microsoft operating code. It was said that the software is totally junk. It is what they called “sold vaporware." Determined to get peer review of what she was finding, Jekot approached David Dill, the Stanford computer science professor (RONNIE DUGGER, MotherJones.com News, August 16, 2004 issue). They add a conformation to these findings.
If the Republican Party’s ties to Diebold and ES&S are enough to cause serious concern, argued election reform activist Beverly Harris. The companies' past performances and current practices should be. Investigated. The author of Black Box Voting, and the woman behind the BlackBoxVoting.com web site provided this opinion. All of this uncertainty about the “touch screen voting” has brought about the concern for security and reliable accuracy. (www.civilrights.org/issues/voting/lccr_brennan_report.pdf.)
Ohio is one of the last states in America to still use the vote-spoiling punch-card machines. And the Secretary of State of Ohio, J. Kenneth Blackwell, noted before the election that there was the possibility that it would be a close one.
Republicans won Ohio by 136,483 votes. Typically in the United States, about 3 percent of votes cast are voided "known as spoilage in election jargon "because the ballots cast are inconclusive. Considering what previously happened in Florida in 2000 and an analysis of elections past, if Ohio discarded ballots were counted; Kerry would have won the state. (Greg Palast, contributing editor to Harper's magazine, investigated the manipulation of the vote for BBC Television's Newsnight) Today it is reported there were a total of 247,672 votes not counted in Ohio, If you add together the 92,672, the 136,483 uncounted votes by mail or absentee votes discarded votes plus the 155,000 provisional ballots we get approximately 244,655 total un counted Ohio votes! Since these votes were in mostly minority and Democratic polling places, it is easy to see that in a recount the probably that Democrats would not get the 136,483 vote to over come their lost is inconceivable.
Although the exit polls showed that most voters in Ohio punched cards for Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was predictable and it was predicted. (TomPaine.com, "An Election Spoiled Rotten,” November 1. 2004) This means that the election in Ohio was not decided by the voters but by something called uncounted "Spoilage," Deliberate “Spoilage.” More remarkably not all votes spoil equally. Most of those votes, say every official report, come from African-American and minority precincts! (Ohio records on voting profiles, November, 2004) This is where Kerry really won Ohio and the Presidency!!
Further, in Florida it was discovered that the computer station had already about 10,000.00 votes recorded for Bush before any voting had started. How many of these Die Bold Machines had similar problems (were similarly rigged?) It is accepted that about two percent of the Florida votes were not counted (similar to nation wide numbers). This is equal to the margin of victory of Republicans in State elections (e.g. both Betty Castor and Kerry)(MORE!!)
But here is the stickler. Moreover, African American and other minority citizens will have cast the majority of ballots thrown out. If all things were normal and fair this would be nearly 233 thousand or three percent of the approximately 7.45 million votes (The Florida Secretary of States Office Report) cast in Florida tossed out from Tuesday's election. Florida is known to be terribly typical.
When writing an analysis like this it is always a danger to fall into the category of” There goes Scruggs again” similar to ”There goes Neda again” or "There goes Gnatt of TH Gnatt Report again" or Satan would say “There goes Jesus again,“ This is followed by, “What do you expect?” That is the risk good Americans must take for the greater good of our Democratic Republic and its remarkable Constitution. We must be as committed as the CATOs’ and the Karl Roves about our mutual destinies. But Karl knows that only a fool with nothing much to loose would really challenge this election after the controversial 2000 debacle. But hold to the truth. It is your friend and your best ally! If you have this malady for truth, physicians have on "Procedures, shots nor pill" to change you.
An obvious and critical question is, “Why don’t the losers challenge the clear fouls in these elections.” I am seriously suggesting that we can find the answer in the common base of the accepted leadership of these Presidential candidates. They are both and usually products of the “Skulls and Bones,” ”fraternity/society” of Yale. A basic covenant is that, “Members do not challenge the accepted schemes by which all members are bound to use to gain the power of their rightful world leadership." Therefore, they cannot file the court proceedings that will once and for all destroy the accepted devious vehicles accepted as a part of the rise to success because It these very vehicles they themselves will some day need in their path to World Domination/The new world Order”. (Antony C. Sutton, America’s Secret Establishment, 1986)
So I say again and finally, “KERRY WON THE PRESIDENCY. WE WUZ ROBBED AGAIN!!”
Dr. J. Alva Scruggs
Chemist, Professor, Educator, Writer
Look forward to your comments
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