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My response to a Republican mailingI received a Republican diatribe from a friend that began with a picture of a flooded school bus yard in New Orleans. It went on to blame local officials for not using their resources properly. Here was my response. Sorry it's so long. Really? The buses were underwater shortly after the storm was upgraded to “monster” status. Who was going to get them started underwater? And those were school buses, whose drivers were busy trying to save the asses of both themselves and loved ones. School Bus drivers are not emergency evacuation personnel. I counted 125 buses in the picture. From the looks of the fence arrangement, the yard had no more than 175. Each bus can SAFELY AND LEGALLY, hold 44 people. That means that, even if each bus works properly, and you had the available bus drivers, and the buses didn’t have governors to regulate speed, and all the evacuation routes were clear, you could evacuate 7700 people. Frankly I tend to get vaguely angry at any tendency to blame the victims as "stupid". One crucial factor that seems to have been neglected by a majority of the media is one that is among the most crucial, that being the time in the month the storm struck. Coming only days before folks were set to receive their monthly paychecks, the poor in the city (and New Orleans is, last I checked, the third poorest major city in the nation, only behind El Paso and San Antonio, which are marked by huge, spawling barrios of recent immigrants) had little to no opportunity to avoid a storm that, to remind everyone, was only upgraded to a monster storm a matter of hours before it hit. Theoretically, even if there were enough buses and cabs to get the entire population out (which, of course, there weren’t), can one expect several hundred thousand (what you consider) careless families to gather everyone together, pool every dollar they have, and set off in a cab to a far away city (which, for all you know, will end up getting hit even worse) at the last minute? When you compound this with the CW that the only folks who die in a hurricane are those who live directly in the path of the storm surge, live in mobile homes, or who are stupid enough to go outside or stand in front of the window I find it very difficult to call someone who decided to weather the storm by holing up in the center room in their multi-story apartment complex (which was on a hill) "stupid". It can be an entirely rational decision to determine that you’d rather spend the bits of money you have saved up on supplies to board up your windows (or whatever) and not risk the possibility of being stuck in traffic in an automobile during a hurricane… It is my understanding that a typical cost to a family of 4, trying to evacuate for any period of time was going to be at least $1200 dollars (Think food, lodging, transportation). Try to do that on under $10,000 a year income. And with the number of hurricanes that threaten the Gulf coast annually, can anyone afford to evacuate every time a storm threatens? Can you? Fact: New Orleans had a plan: http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=3 Follow these steps: Stay calm. HURRICANE EVACUATION GUIDELINES If you plan to evacuate, leave as early as possible - before hurricane gale force winds, heavy rainfall, and storm surge cause road closing. Leaving early may also help you to avoid massive traffic jams encountered late in an evacuation effort. Listen to the radio and/or television for storm reports and current updates. An evacuation notice will be issued when a hurricane is forecast to present a danger to Orleans Parish. The timing of this notice will depend on the probability of landfall in this area, and the severity and forward speed of the storm. The Orleans Parish Evacuation Plan has three phases: During the Precautionary Phase of Evacuation: 2. RECOMMENDED YOU ARE AT RISK: During the Recommended Phase of Evacuation: Never take any hurricane lightly; everyone is especially at risk if a hurricane is category 3 (slow moving storm) or 4 and 5 (slow or fast moving storm). 3. MANDATORY During the Mandatory Phase of Evacuation: Evacuation Considerations to Keep in Mind: Prepare to evacuate if advised to do so by officials through Radio or Television. Question. How many conservatives does it take to evacuate poor people from areas of natural disasters? Answer. We don’t know, its never happened. After all, this is God’s way of culling the herd. And its their own fault that they are poor anyway, don’t disturb me during a $100,000 a plate fundraiser. Fact: Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside. Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. Source http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_con... Question: Should local officials have raised taxes on themselves to improve the levees when the Federal Government clearly lost interest in locals security projects in deference to Iraq? WHAT? HIGHER TAXES? How many Republicans does it take to fix a levee? None! When the levee realizes it might break, it will fix itself. Fact: According to the Times-Picayune, early in Bush's first term FEMA director Joe Allbaugh ordered a sophisticated computer simulation of what would happen if a category 5 storm hit New Orleans. Joseph Suhayda, an engineer at Louisana State University who worked on the project, described to the newspaper in 2002 what the simulation showed could happen: Subhayda: Another scenario is that some part of the levee would fail. It's not something that's expected. But erosion occurs, and as levees broke, the break will get wider and wider. The water will flow through the city and stop only when it reaches the next higher thing. The most continuous barrier is the south levee, along the river. That's 25 feet high, so you'll see the water pile up on the river levee. Whether or not a "breach" was "anticipated," the fact is that many individuals have been warning for decades about the threat of flooding that a hurricane could pose to a set below sea level and sandwiched between major waterways. A Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) report from before September 11, 2001 detailed the three most likely catastrophic disasters that could happen in the United States: a terrorist attack in New York, a strong earthquake in San Francisco, and a hurricane strike in New Orleans. In 2002, New Orleans officials held the simulation of what would happen in a category 5 storm. Walter Maestri, the emergency coordinator of Jefferson Parish in New Orleans , recounted the outcome to PBS’ NOW With Bill Moyers: Maestri, September 2002: Well, when the exercise was completed it was evidence that we were going to lose a lot of people. We changed the name of the [simulated] storm from Delaney to K-Y-A-G-B... kiss your ass goodbye... because anybody who was here as that category five storm came across... was gone. Source: http://www.factcheck.org/article344.html Question: If this could be anticipated, why was FEMA so ill prepared for the possiblility. Are they not in charge with advance planning in case of both man made and NATURAL DISASTERS? Or are terrorist attacks the only thing that Homeland Security is interested in? Can local officials take up the slack for lack of federal funds with out, DARE I SAY IT, raising TAXES? How many Republican Congressmen does it take to shore up a levee? None. They all too busy blaming Clinton’s penis for the war in IRAQ. Frankly, it seems that the party of “Personal Responsibility” does its best work at buck passing. Well as far as I am concerned, the buck stops at the President’s desk. It always has and it always will.
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There is a very descriptive letter on the homepage
of democraticunderground that goes into detail about the forces of local, state, and federal at work during a hurricane like Katrina. It is imaginary...it didnt happen in NOLA...at least not this time around. But the planning was in place and could have worked in the manner described in this article.
Points out very clearly that the president and vice president have to be engaged in the problem. That FEMA and homeland security are more than just titles for horse's asses to run. That someone had a standing 'militia' to control the area...just happened that the LA National Guard were off in the middle east with much of their equipment.
As a result, aid was too little and too late. FEMA was part of the problem. No one at the federal level followed the plans so carefully drawn up at considerable cost.
The buck stops at Bush. One needs to look no further to find the one person responsible.
Excellent thread Vince.
Here is a letter
that was passed on to me, this morning, from an old friend who is not a RW-nut bar, but believed it enough to want to inform me with it.
I received this in the form of a letter from a friend and was able to trace it this far
The Battle over New Orleans
http://www.rightnation.us ^ | 9/7/05 | Bill Weiler
Posted on 09/07/2005 8:51:31 PM PDT by Dweefus
THE BATTLE OVER NEW ORLEANS
It was obviously sent to her from a copy on free republic that I found here. That post traced back here http://www.rightnation.us/ so there is no doubt that it originated with the far far right division of propaganda. Oddly though instead of anonymous authorship it is being claimed by at least three authors ;)
Blame Nagin
Claim: New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin and Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco refused President Bush's pleas to declare an emergency in Louisiana before Hurricane Katrina struck.
Status: False.
Example: [Collected via e-mail, 2005]
If you search snoops for Katrina you will find some really stupid and some very bad stuff circulating about this storm.
Proud member of the reality based community.
Blame
Submarine USS Wahoo ss238
They will circulate this long enough for
a lot of people to believe it, once you
tell people lies for a long period of time
they will believe anything.
The genius of Rove
The minister of missinformation and deception knows exactly which lies to spread and who should spread them. He does it so anonymously, and makes it sound just convincing enough, that the stupid ditto heads trained by Rush Limpballs would never get off their collective asses to check facts.
All you have to do is check out the City of New Orleans Web sight for the disaster plan, to know this is all "Bushshit". But that is how lazy these dumb bastards are.
Saving the world from stupidity
One Republican at a time
Since November, 2004
I wonder if Rove is losing his touch
He is the one who ushered photographers into the bush quarters on AF1 to take pictures of the pres. surveying the hurricane damage from a few thousand feet up. The pics that showed up in a lot of papers around the world gave bush the look of a reluctant tourist, rather than a concerned leader or a take charge, hands on kind of guy. I think the photos caught bush with his compassion down wearing nothing but his apathy. Or maybe I just want to think that ;)
Proud member of the reality based community.
Well Di, that sure has Karl Rove all over it
doesn't it. It was Bush himself who cut the amount of money going to the Corps of Engineers for levee and pump work.
It was Bush himself who had the USS Bataan(correct pronunciation--BAH--TAH--AHN, a Tagalog word and place)following the storm. The ship, a 600 bed hospital, capability of making 100,000 gallons of fresh water daily, lite and heavy choppers and crews, Doctors and Nurses, and all waited for Bush to order them to tie up in NOLA. Bush issued no such order to the Bataan.
Once the storm had done it's initial damage, the facilities of the Bataan could have been used to save thousands of lives.
FEMA spent it's time turning away all sorts of corporate and private assistance while at the same time, doing nothing.
What we saw during and following the passage of Katrina, was the willfull and deliberate murder of a major US city by the federal government and their developer friends(including Halliburton)who want to take the land and make millions with it.
Yep
and now what is the plan? Now that they have sent the poor all over the nation with no way to get back and given Bechtel, Haliburton and Shaw the very lucrative contracts to do the clean up and rebuild will corperate America own the new town? Let's see buy up the raw land of the poor at 10 cents on the dollar, get us to pay for the tear down of existing homes and the removal of poison soil and build god only knows what kind of adult Disneyland?
Proud member of the reality based community.