at 7 pm on CNN 360 or what ever that program is is going to do a story from Crawford about Cindy :)

Proud member of the reality based community.

Today, Rush talked about how Bush had been so compassionate with the families of many fallen soldiers. This would be in the news soon. Now, Newsweek is describing how he has met with the families of fallen soldiers at bases and has deeply touched them. Do these soldiers' families get prescreened? Why is he so sad and apologetic with them and called Cindy "Mom" ? It is amazing that the media has an answer for everything. We never realized what a saint that we had for president. Does this ring true to anyone? The media events never seem to end. There is an answer for everything and it always ends up that the depth of George's soul is deeper than the deepest ocean and higher than the tallest mountain. Bush can never be ordinary. He is a man among men. No way! He is an actor. Last year, he was handing out that water to the hurricane victims in the state of Florida. He never said anything about the tragedy at the Indian school. Bushco selects its media events well. Don't waste any action if you can't get a vote out of it. No one saw Karl cutting those onions for George before the meetings began. Crocodile tears and
hugs and kisses from a cold blooded creature don't convince me of anything. The Vietnam War years taught Bush a lesson. He now can campaign and still serve the military without going AWOL. What a guy!

as news on MSN's homepage. (PUKE)

Some redneck in a truck just drove over all the crosses that Cindy and gang had put up.

DU/general discussion threads

That's disgusting!

What a destructive, mean jerk that guy is!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

Cindy is also facing increasing harrassment from the Secret Service and local fascists.

From Antiwar.com's blog this morning:

Camp Casey Attacked
The hate campaign conducted by the War Party against Cindy Sheehan has finally culminated in an attack on "Camp Casey," the site of a growing protest against the Iraq war in Crawford, Texas, according to this report. Apparently, a man in a pick-up truck barreled into Camp Casey, and, wielding a chain, knocked down 150 road-side crosses representing the Iraq war dead. The truck then suffered a blown-out tire, and law enforcement, we hear, have the man in custody.

Sheehan has alerted her supporters that the Secret Service is pressuring her to leave Crawford. According to this report, Thursday morning the residents of Camp Casey were jolted awake by a fourteen-car convoy of Secret Service SUVs, as the drivers leaned on their horns as they passed the camp at high speed. Earlier, a local resident, Larry Mattlage, fired his gun in the air in the vicinity, and, when asked why, replied:

“We're going to start doing our war and it's going to be underneath the law. Whatever it takes.”

A more accurate description of the War Party's agenda and methodology could hardly be articulated.
http://www.locustfork.net/blog/archives/2005/08/secret_service_1.html

And this does not bode well for future demonstrations. If they can do it in crawford they can do it anywhere they like!

Mclennan County Commisioners Court has an
action item
on tomorrow's agenda: "Consider the prohibition of public demonstrations
along Prairie
Chapel Rd." This is real and real serious. They could pass this measure and
send the
Sherriff out and have Camp Casey cleared out by noon

Proud member of the reality based community.

and this don't go away soon, you will see the real Republican machine go to work. So for it has been mild harrasment but real dogs have not been let out yet. That bunch is capable of anything short of murder if they consider you a threat and they are headed by Brother Karl Rove, and he is a nasty SOB. I wish Cindy the best against this bunch of scoundrels.

the pickup attack:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464472/posts

...and we have to live with these people.

perhaps they did pull it. The KKK over there at freeperland were really doing everything except burn the broken crosses created by one of their own: Larry Chad Northern.

Not surprising that they had to pull it. Will spend some time(this is my weekend right now)looking for another to start up over there.

I believe after reading the messages on this site that the human race has devolved. They can't spell over there and thinking must be painful. I did learn something that I didn't know before. If it moves tax it, if it keeps moving regulate it, and if it stops moving subsidize it. The progressive liberals agenda has been summed up by this erudite group in three clever phrases. If they all weren't so meanspirited and horrible, I would pity them. Not one of them has probably ever stood up for any cause more "noble" than protesting an increase in the cigarette tax or the requirement to wear shoes and a shirt in a store or restaurant. They probably think that psychobabble is a real word and understand what an obsolete hula hoop means in a marriage. I am just glad that Cindy and the rest of the people were not injured and have moved to a safer place. George Bush polarized America into two camps-"the have brains and souls" and "the decerebrate have nots who are still wandering in the desert looking for WMD's". What will happen when they realize that George's quest for "Iraqi democracy" will end in a new Islamic state? They probably won't understand it anyway.

I can't believe it is actually on the front page of YAHOO News.

More than 1,600 vigils were planned Wednesday from coast to coast by liberal advocacy groups MoveOn.org Political Action, TrueMajority and Democracy for America. A large vigil was also planned in Paris.

snip

Some critics say Sheehan is exploiting her son's death to promote a left-wing agenda supported by her and groups with which she associates.

snip

In Minnesota, about 1,000 war protesters stood on a bridge linking Minneapolis and St. Paul. "This war has been disgraceful, with trumped-up reasons," Sue Ann Martinson said. "There were no weapons of mass destruction and the Iraqis didn't have anything to do with 9-11."

Nearly 200 people gathered on the courthouse steps in Hackensack, N.J., with many saying they were angry about the war but were supporting U.S. troops.

snip

Meanwhile, a group called FreeRepublic.com held a pro-Bush rally in the same Washington, D.C., park where 300 people had gathered for a candlelight vigil. At one point, members of the two sides had a heated exchange over who was more patriotic.

"If they don't want to support it, they don't have to support it," said Iraq war veteran Kevin Pannell, who had both legs amputated after a grenade attack last year in Baghdad. "That's the reason I lost my legs."

So Cindy Sheehan is promoting a left-wing agenda and the Right is still "supporting the war." Why does the press always paint the left as looney and those who love war as the reasonable ones? And a disabled vet is advancing the President's agenda but Cindy can't speak for her son or other dead soldiers? Pathetic!

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security

- George W. Bush in a debate in St. Charles, Mo., Nov. 2, 2000

I screwed up...thanks for fixing it Necco.

Now a new problem coming up for Cindy:

Under the auspices of an organization called: MoveAmericaForward.org
and KFSO San Francisco...a caravan is due to cross the country starting in SF and continuing on to Crawford toward the end of August...with stops and press times set up during the trip by Melanie Morgan of KFSO(SF hate radio).

There are two current threads at FR which are frothing at the idea of a counter protest. The caravan is leaving SF on Monday 8-22.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1465713/posts?page=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464717/posts

One poster, #24, calls their attention to an annual event in Dallas for *you know what*--I suspect this is reference to the killing of JFK.

Both links are working. Again I am sorry for the error in the previous link. Vision seems to be going.

Please vote: AOL is pitting mothers agaisnt eachother. Cindy is trailing right now 57% to 43%. I know these polls aren't scientific and I know its silly but the damned things piss me off.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050818095409990040&ncid...

Did America need its own Palestine?

Considering how right-wing the aol chats are, I am not at all surprised.

Still, the votes are pretty close showing that the repugs are not as strong as they once were.

I voted. Bump.

Considering how much support she got in Orange County, Ca
last night, I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers go in her favor.

Our local ABC station ( Los Angeles) covered
the vigil in Huntington Beach that's in Orange County,
not one in Los Angeles. That surprised me.
Over 200 people were at the Huntington Beach pier.

Thanks everyone. Keep on voting. Sometimes AOL polls go against the chat room folk.

from lighupthedarkness.org

Recent Updates From The Iconoclast
Nice Video, if you haven’t met Cindy

Things You Can DO:

Go To Crawford. It is urgent, they are threatening to arrest her Thursday as a national security risk. She wasn’t a risk Saturday or today, but she will be Thursday. Is it because Rummy and Condi are visiting? Or is it the big fundraiser this weekend? Cindy says they’ll have to drag her away, let them drag away 50,000 others, and never get to her.

Crawford Peace House list of things that Cindy and the people with her need.

Food,water,Coffee,first aid kit, tarps,canopy,batteries,flashlights,wet wipes,banner supplies,rope paint,etc,nails and hammers,bug spray,ice chest and lots of ice.Car lighter adapter for electrical appliances,tents,tables,chairs.

You can send small items, flyers, cards and letters of support for Cindy to:

Crawford Peace House
P.O Box 710218
Dallas, TX 75371

FedEx or US Express Mail to
c/o Crawford Peace House
9142 East 5th
Crawford, TX 76638

Local Food & Water, you can order on the phone with credit card. Someone from Peace House will pick up, Coffee Station will deliver some orders of staples and such.

The Coffee Station (254) 486-2561
Subway in McGregor (254-840-0555)
Bar-B-Que place in McGregor 254-840-3344

Monetary Donations

You can mail checks to the Peace House address above, or donate to one of the peace groups that are with her:

Code Pink
Gold Star Families for Peace
Military Families Speak Out

Airline Miles

If you can't go yourself, you can donate frequent flyer miles to help others get to Crawford. Go to Code Pink to find out how.

Local Demonstrations Nationwide

Organize or join a demonstration in your own community. There's plenty of room for people to jump in here to organize. Some specific actions so far:

Hunger Strike with Code Pink
Organize with a local group of United for Peace and Justice

Write LTTE’s to your local papers, Troops’ Deaths No Reason For More Deaths, Coward-In-Chief Hides Again

I will add purchase PETT bags because GeorgeBushyTail just ordered them a potty:

to Los Angeles to be with her.
Again, my thoughts and prayers are with her.

( from Mike's website)

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=3763

CRAWFORD, Texas - The grieving woman who started an anti-war demonstration near President Bush's ranch nearly two weeks ago left the camp Thursday after learning her mother had had a stroke, but she told supporters the protest would go on.

Cindy Sheehan told reporters she had just received the phone call and was leaving immediately to be with her 74-year-old mother at a Los Angeles hospital.

"I'll be back as soon as possible if it's possible," she said. After hugging some of her supporters, Sheehan and her sister, Deedee Miller, got in a van and left for the Waco airport about 20 miles away.

I voted. People agree with her but don't like her tactics. Gee, I guess that they don't like civil disobedience and didn't like Gandhi. What would they like better? Maybe, Cindy should just torch herself in her grief. It is really bad for this woman to want to talk to the leader of the "Free" World. How great a sacrifice do you have to make to earn an audience? I could have gotten to see Mr. Bush "supposedly" at a dinner party if I paid $3,000/plate and could have been the owner of a cup or plaque with his face on it. Somehow, the Republican Party doesn't know my political leanings or maybe the GOP thinks that I can be bought. Irregardless of this, Cindy's loss as well as the loss of a loved one experienced by every other spouse, mother, father, grandparent, sibling or child is greater than any amount of money. We can't put a price on these lives. Crisp George can surely make it up the road but he just won't because he doesn't care that we the people of the United States suffer or mourn. For the other mothers who think that we are proterrorists trying to hurt their children, what would you have us do? If I saw a child, who was not my own, riding a bike straight toward the edge of a cliff, I would do everything that I could to stop him from reaching that cliff. He isn't my child but he is someone's child and I know that I must try to protect him. This is how we feel about all of your children. Bush lied. Nothing that he told us about Iraq has been true. The soldiers are dying because they truly believe that they are protecting us and keeping us safe. We want to protect them from an administration and a political agenda which values the wealth and power of 1% of the people more than the lives of the 99% of the people who don't count.

The vote swung one point to 44% agree with Cindy.

She has gotten the whole country(the world?) to look and listen to her for a moment. She has proven to be a shrewd and determined political force.
God Bless her.

Going to Crawford where there are dozens of reporters who are looking for stories, with very little coming out of the presidents entourage, is a brilliant move.

If Cindy ends up in handcuffs, The Presidents credability on Iraq is done,over,completely used up.

not in anything he has attempted.

Grinch, I like the new title for Bushie!

it came into use on our old boards when Bush was attacked by a frisky pretzel and was badly wounded by it. His dogs however, didn't go to his aid but instead remained in front of the tv watching the game.

The damage to Bush's cheek from the attack of the pretzel looked very much like the damage done by a frying pan...perhaps Laura helped the pretzel out a wee bit.

The late night talk show hosts had a field day.
That was one weird episode, especially regarding
his dogs. Were they thinking of 'survival of the fittest?'
;-)

at DU today. Much was said about the pitiful show put on by the pro-war protesters.

They made a huge sign...again not spelling correctly...so the Moran guy has competition.

One report had lots of chuckles throughout the thread:

A group of bikers was at the pro-war camp. They had parked in the street. Sheriffs went over to talk to the bikers and met with some backtalk. Apparently the sheriffs pushed the bikes over and into the ditch.