John Roberts Belongs to Treasonous Federalist Society

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Here's the John Roberts story in a nutshell:

Those who know Roberts say he, unlike Souter, is a reliable conservative who can be counted on to undermine if not immediately overturn liberal landmarks like abortion rights and affirmative action. Indicators of his true stripes cited by friends include: clerking for Rehnquist, membership in the Federalist Society, laboring in the Ronald Reagan White House counsel's office and at the Justice Department into the Bush years, working with Kenneth Starr among others, and even his lunchtime conversations at Hogan & Hartson. "He is as conservative as you can get," one friend puts it. In short, Roberts may combine the stealth appeal of Souter with the unwavering ideology of Scalia and Thomas.

I'm sure we'll learn lots more about Roberts' ideology in the coming days.

But the fact that he belongs to the Federalist Society is sufficient to disquality him.

The Federalist Society is nothing less than a treasonous conspiracy which engineered the Stolen Election of 2000. Its members include Antonin Scalia, John Ashcroft, Robert Bork, Orrin Hatch, Ted Olsen, Alberto Gonzalez, and just about everyone else appointed to the courts by George Bush Sr. and Jr.

Here's some recommended reading:

  • A Hostile Takeover: How the Federalist Society is capturing the federal courts By Martin Garbus

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How disturbing is it that we

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How disturbing is it that we have to put up with the idiocracies of another conservative possible Supreme Court Justice? I am 16 years old, and I even understand that he will try to sway the entire Supreme Court. His extremist conservative ways will, we can only hope, come back to bite him in the years to come. God help us all!
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If Roe and AA are overturned,

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neo-cons and conservatives alike will think the sky is falling because there is nothing that would turn a politically passive Democrat into a party activist quicker than those two possible events. The conservatives would very quickly lose the house, senate and WH. Our primary concern at this time should be voting rights. The Democrat party should immediately adopt a policy that all Democrat ballots are hand counted. Nationwide. For all elections. That policy needs to be part of the party platform.

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions.  Dorothy Day

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I totally agree. We'll never get a great president if we don't stop the voting fraud that is going on perpetrated by this administration.

The Supremeless Court

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There will need to be a complete overhaul of our entire Supreme Court at some point because of the foul soiling of ethics that resides there now.

It's not a "Supreme Court" at all. It's mostly a bunch of greedy corrupt criminals in robes who would probably be common gang members if they didn't have the upbringing and money that allowed them their law degrees.

Bush and the criminals like him are abusing their power and using the American system to their evil and greedy and preverse ends. I hope to see Republicans like him in prison one day --- and every so-called 'judge' they placed in the Supremeless Court thrown out on their duffs.

'a young conservative'...

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ha.

Perhaps Bush didn't listen to Laura Bush [re; a woman nominee] --does this mean Judge Roberts will listen to his 'feminist right-wing nut wife'?

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Though John Roberts’ views on privacy and reproductive rights are still unknown (like so much about the nominee), Roberts’ wife is a prominent anti-choice activist.

Jane Sullivan Roberts has extensive ties to the conservative group Feminists for Life. As late as 1998, Mrs. Roberts was the group’s Executive Vice President. In 2001, she was identified as the “FFL board counsel,” and in the Summer 2002 FFL quarterly, The American Feminist, Roberts is listed as a member of the “Elizabeth Cady Stanton Circle” of fundraisers, who have raised between $1,000-$2,499 for the organization.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/20/roberts-wife

Jane Sullivan Roberts.

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Yet another first for our boundary-breaching White House: for the first time in American history, we're going to have a justice on the high court whose spouse facilitates financing and putting together global satellite systems.

Also, the firm in which she is a partner, Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, emphasizes among other things its expertise in facilitating business in Iraq:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/072105Burns/072105burns.html

Re-post -- any thoughts?

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Somehow, when I was researching this nominee, I came up with this link and I am perplexed and concerned...

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=USMarin...

Does it mean that George Schulz was in the Marines with Joe McCarthy, Baker and Donaldson officers under them, and then Colson was an officer under Baker?, -- or does it mean just that they were all in the Marines... Relevance you ask? Well, I saw Larry King (it was on at my parents' house) interviewing Robert's best friend, Dean Colson, (they clerked together for Rehnquist), who is also a lawyer and major JEB buddy in FLA. I believe Dean is Chuck's son.

http://www.colson.com/Bio/DeanColson.asp

So I am thinking.... uhhh... Colson, Watergate, the religious right,Baker, the Carlyle Group... this not just a membership in the Federalist Society. I stand by my comment that Roberts' legal credentials are exceptional... but I think I am taking my opinion back on his ability to abstain from social engineering from the bench. I think he was chosen as the nominee long ago by the BA cronies and the RR....

More detail on Robert's ideology

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Review of cases during his appellate court confirmation process -- worth reading:

http://www.independentjudiciary.com/resources/docs/John_Roberts_Report.pdf#search='attorney%20John%20Roberts'

Not just an ideologue

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It's not just that Roberts is an ideologue, he also a Bush/Rove/Cheney enabler of their dirty deeds. He was the lawyer in charge of stopping the Florida election recount, '00. He was one of 3 judges that gave Cheney a free pass on the mnutes of Enron meeting with Ken Lay, plus his wife, also a rightwing nut, is working for a Wash law firm involved with Iraq war profiteering. What else?? Clearly he will be another rubber stamp on the Supreme court like Clarence Thomas.

Check a source? - he is not a member of Federalist Society

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The truth is that Judge Roberts is not a member of the Federalist Society. See Newsweek and others. Can you correct this post please?
Buckeye Bob

So what?

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He speaks at their engagements, hangs out at their parties, but hasn't chipped in his $50. I guess that doesn't make him a member.

Puhleeze.

Who to believe...

American media (caught up in payola) or law.com:

Yet those who know Roberts say he, unlike Souter, is a reliable conservative who can be counted on to undermine if not immediately overturn liberal landmarks like abortion rights and affirmative action. Indicators of his true stripes cited by friends include: clerking for Rehnquist, membership in the Federalist Society, laboring in the Ronald Reagan White House counsel's office and at the Justice Department into the Bush years, working with Kenneth Starr among others, and even his lunchtime conversations at Hogan & Hartson. "He is as conservative as you can get," one friend puts it. In short, Roberts may combine the stealth appeal of Souter with the unwavering ideology of Scalia and Thomas.

Law.com

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Depends on what the meaning

Depends on what the meaning of "member" is. True, he says that he hasn't paid the $50.00 annual fee to become a card-carrier, but all of his mentors and sponsors ARE card-carriers: Antonin (Quack, Quack) Scalia, Clarence Thomas, John Ashcroft, and Orrin Hatch -- just to name a few.

He has been groomed by the extreme neoconservative right-wing of the Republican party since before his graduation from Harvard. If it walks like a neocon, and talks like a neocon, it IS a neocon.

Semantics about "membership" is a typical Rove strategy: I'm not technically guilty until charged and proven guilty. I don't believe that Independents pay an annual fee either, or do you have a card that says "Proud Member of the Independent Party?"

Hey, if you go to the

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Hey, if you go to the cross-burnings and wear the hood, regardless of whether you have paid the dues, your a klansman in my book.

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Paranoid?

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So you think I am an "R" in an "I"'s clothing?
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Once you go through 1 or 2

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Once you go through 1 or 2 or 100 I's only to discover via a nuclear post that it’s all Neo Con R, one gets fatigued. I suppose too that in this era of reconstruction: Neo Cons and Rel. Right grabbing the Republican Party and democrats.com budding push to turn the Democratic Party, a lot of us feel that it is time to jump in the fray and rebuild.

I should add that the Liberal Democrats here are not begging for votes. Yes, we are defending our families from all the shit coming down the pike from this new Republican Party, but if Americans wish to suffer a plenty under their "leadership" what can one do? In addition, this site is private and publication of comments is a privilege. We have been pushed and we are pushing back.

No, I'm not paranoid --

No, I'm not paranoid -- everyone IS out to get me. Seriously, I have seen too many pretenders on this blog to take anyone's profile at face value.

I have also tried very hard to understand the reason that someone would profess to be an Independent. The websites that claim to represent the Independent POV, and post their "platforms," appear to be a mix of Greens and Libertarians (as unlikely as that sounds).

As with most members of Democrats.com, I believe that our Party truly represents mainstream conservative America, and the values that made this country what it was up until 10-15 years ago. The neocons and our very own DLC have tried to take that away, and return us to the era of the robber barons. We want our Party, and our country, back.

Lengthy google search indeed does turn up

the supposed fact that Roberts does not actually, legally, belong to the Federalist Society. From many sources, Roberts did not officially pay the $50 membership fee--in order that democrats would not tie him to this society. What the definition of 'is' is...sort of another wag the dog Repugnant invention to avoid scrutiny.

Conjecture: It is also possible that if he were a dues-paying member in good standing, he would not have been paid for the many lectures/speeches he has made before the Society.

In this case, does he walk like a duck?, Quack like a duck?, Look like a duck? Yes, he certainly does.

Since the Federalist Society declines to open their membership list to public scrutiny...and that would be the definitive proof one way or another...we may have to assume that he is--at the least--a fellow traveler.

Another Repugnant avoids a connection to something on a mere technicality. Does anyone feel that the Society would not welcome his $50 membership fee with open arms?

To openly state that he is not a member, based on a number of right-wing sites claims, only means that one must produce the membership list to prove that Judge Roberts is indeed, not on the list.

And, to take conjecture a bit further, if Judge Roberts avoided paying the membership fee to avoid investigation into his relationship with the Federalist Society...only means that this supposedly-instant nomination(by Bush)has been in the planning stages for months--IF NOT YEARS.

Guilt by association? You bet.

If Roberts is careful not to

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If Roberts is careful not to leave a paper trail of his associations then posters should not draw attention to BOTH his associations AND his sneakiness.

See if anyone can pick up a connection between...

Roberts, Richard Mellon Scaife, and the Arkansas Project. There are hints out there.

Member or not is the issue

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Truthfulness matters folks, so let's be accurate. If you want to reject the guy b/c you don't like his conservative views - that is fine - but you don't have to lie about it or come up with far fetched rationales about what how he might be "avoiding a connection." It is not like he is avoiding membership in the "wife beater's club." Its the freakin' federalist society - most folks of that ilk go out of their way to let you know they belong. There are more constructive ways to criticize the guy than this.
Buckeye Bob

You're picking nits BB.

In typical Republican fashion, you're picking nits BB. He doesn't need to be a full-fledged card-carrying member to belong to the club. No one is lying about anything. He hangs with the boys in the Federalist Hood, so that makes him one of "them." Roberts says he can't "remember" joining, but he did not deny membership. In his heart-of-hearts, he is, or was, a member -- official or not.

To expound on grinch's post, see this excerpt from the WP:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/24/AR200507...

Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr. has repeatedly said that he has no memory of belonging to the Federalist Society, but his name appears in the influential, conservative legal organization's 1997-1998 leadership directory.

Having served only two years on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit after a long career as a government and private-sector lawyer, Roberts has not amassed much of a public paper record that would show his judicial philosophy. Working with the Federalist Society would provide some clue of his sympathies. The organization keeps its membership rolls secret, but many key policymakers in the Bush administration are acknowledged current or former members.

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Over the weekend, The Post obtained a copy of the Federalist Society Lawyers' Division Leadership Directory, 1997-1998. It lists Roberts, then a partner at the law firm Hogan & Hartson, as a member of the steering committee of the organization's Washington chapter and includes his firm's address and telephone number.

You also didn't answer my question: are you a card-carrying Independent? Could you explain to us the platform of the many different "official" Independent Parties?

Well Buffalo Bob, the way we deal here is with the facts...

and yours have just slipped from factual to ... ummm...lets be nice and say that your views are somewhat suspect.

Charles Lane
WP Staff Writer
Monday 7-25-2005

"Supreme Court Nominee John G. Roberts Jr. has said he has no 'memory' of belonging to the Federalist Society, but his name appears in the influential conservative organization's 1997-1998 leadership directory."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/24/AR200507...

This is an individual who has a mind like a steel trap. There is no way he could forget his [deniable]connections with the FS. Further on in this article, it is mentioned that to 'forget' to pay dues is not problematic for the group...particularly the leadership. He served this organization well at very high levels.

Read the article...note the legalese...the 'what part of is 'is.' Then tell us again, with a straight face, that he was 'never' a member.

Can the 'Roberts counseled Jeb'

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thread be moved over here?

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions. Dorothy Day

That's beyond my pay grade

That's beyond my pay grade Jane...;-)

Lessee, Roberts worked with Jeb, he worked with...

Ken Starr(closely), and so many others. Dig a little and maybe you might find a connection with Newt Gingrich/GOPAC. No doubt many others...yet his background is almost flawless. The 'flawless'background probably covers a multitude of sins.

"Secret" Societies

"Secret" exclusive societies like the Federalist Society, and the KKK don't publish membership lists for a reason.

Star regreated what he did

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to Clinton...what does Roberts have to say about that, I wonder.

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions. Dorothy Day

And he approves of Saddam's method

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of conducting a trial, apparently.
http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/2005/07/24/Roberts_rules_put_us_at_risk

Is Roberts rewriting the Rules of Order?

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions. Dorothy Day

Unbelievable! There is an issue here after all!

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I guess it goes to show that this administration is as bad at picking nominees for the Supreme Court as they are for say running the country, fighting a war, starting a war, fighting terrorism, etc. At this rate, I am pretty sure they would f' up a game of tic-tac-toe. Today, he can't remember being a member. Yesterday he wasn't even a member.
Buckeye Bob

Thanks Bob for ripping the

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Thanks Bob for ripping the fabric of the space-time continuum by varying your outlook based on new data ;) That is too close to science and rational thought for today’s fashionable run with the neo cons.

Outlook same

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My outlook is the same. My responses are based on what is known. They were f'ups yesterday as they are today - I just didn't anticipate they they would make an issue where one didn't have to exist and make their nominiee into a liar in the process. In any event, you are right about the manner in delaing with the Neocons.
Buckeye Bob

Here's the link to the St.Pete Times article

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sorry I didn't catch that earlier...
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/871538281.html?MAC=b49d3907c9964c2a8...

Roberts' rules put U.S. at risk
Robyn E. Blumner July 24, 2005

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions.  Dorothy Day

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Television Ads Promoting Roberts

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When did the White House start running ads to promote a nominee for Supreme Court.

Who is paying for this advertising? An ad runs at least every 30 minutes here in Texas

Here is one source

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Fidelis President Joseph Cella commented: "We warned the public that anti-religious bigotry would enter the confirmation process just as it did in the past. Less than twenty four hours after Judge Roberts' nomination, we began seeing these mean- spirited attacks surface."

The statement comes two weeks after Fidelis unveiled newspaper and radio ads accusing DNC Chairman Howard Dean and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of anti-religious bigotry. The ads highlighted anti-religious remarks made by both Dean and Reid and called upon both leaders to prevent such bigotry from entering the upcoming Supreme Court confirmation hearings. Fidelis is readying the next phase of their media and grassroots campaign.

"Senators Schumer, Durbin and Bayh once again have dragged hate politics into the confirmation process. Their anti-Catholic bigotry is carefully cloaked by questioning Judge Roberts' 'personal views' and hypothetical questions involving his religious faith which he holds dearly. Roberts' religious faith and how he lives that faith as an individual has no bearing and no place in the confirmation process," Cella said.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=50837

Contact: Brian Burch of Fidelis, 734-358-3433 or bburch@Fidelis.org

The way that these sweet Christian leaders talk about liberals and democratic senators one might think that they have forgotten the principle of LOVE that the church was founded upon.

WASHINGTON Progress for America Inc. (PFA) today [Wednesday, July 20, 2005] announced an initial one-week, $1,000,000 advertising, grass roots, and e-campaign to persuade opinion leaders in Washington, DC and across America that Judge John G. Roberts is a fair judge who deserves a fair up or down vote.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=7014

They had $1,000,000.00 set to go, earmarked for Roberts ads, before most of us ever heard of Roberts. The ads came out the day after Bush announced his appointment. That makes me wonder who actually picked this guy!

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Katrina bring some good to Roberts nomination

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Robertson claimed that, in the wake of Katrina, Roberts can "be thankful that a tragedy has brought him some good"

Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's (CBN) The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, stated that, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr. can "be thankful that a tragedy has brought him some good."

On the September 1 edition of The 700 Club, Robertson argued that "out of this tragedy, the focus of America is going to be on these [hurricane] victims," and "inflamed rhetoric" from senators during Roberts's confirmation hearings "is just not going to play well now." Robertson also commented that, following the hurricane, if senators "[go] on a vendetta against Roberts" by sharply questioning or criticizing him, "it's just going to hurt them."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200509060005

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security

like it's some kind of federal program."

- George W. Bush in a debate in St. Charles, Mo., Nov. 2, 2000

And I suppose that God told

And I suppose that God told him this during one of his frequent conversations with Her?