"Daybreak urgently reminds us that good political intentions are not sufficient to ensure the continuation of our democracy; informed vigilance is vital to that task."
-Mark Karlin, editor of Buzzflash.com
I believe that Terri may be going to a far,far better place than we have ever known. I know that she will rest in peace. However, the lunatics are on the television again with Tom Delay making statements tnat could be interpreted as either veiled threats or subtle suggestions. This was never, ever about disability or not respecting life. The judicial system heard the facts and made a decision. I think that the AMA needs to come forth and question the credentials of the doctors who were experts for the Schindler family. Some physicians will say anything for money. We are human and have many complex emotions. However, we are also blessed with the ability to think. Someone needs to get this message out before we see the end of all reason.
Submitted by gogglespaisan on March 31, 2005 - 2:04pm.
I thought that bitch would never die. People like her don't deserve to live. Ugly people make me puke and so do old people, retards and pricks in wheelchairs.
Now I'm going to the local nursing home and beat some old geezers with a crowbar until they die with dignity. Then I'm going to the mall and make fun of retarded kids until they cry and beat them with a crowbar until they die with dignity. Finally I'm going to look for people being kept artificially mobile in wheelchairs then beat them with a crowbar until they die with dignity.
Proud to be progressive.
Moderator's comment:
This post is being left in place to illustrate the venomous mindset of the extreme right-wing religious radicals who have hijacked this tragic event to further their political agenda.
I know you guys have access to the magic numbers machine. By chance was this Troll "Angel of Death". Seemed to be his style, though I amazed he learned about paragraphs.
Submitted by blue planet on March 31, 2005 - 3:13pm.
Thankfully, Terri's wishes were carried out despite death threats by the fascist mentalities of right wingers and the totalitarian impulses of the Bush regime. Her husband and the judicial system are true heroes for having stood up to such insanity and respecting her wishes despite vile threats and slander.
Now America will have an opportunity to see the true face of evil that comprises the right wing persona. Already, on chat boards, their hatred is driving them to new lows as they gnash their teeth in frustration at not having been able to claim a ghoulish victory over the tragedy of Terri Schiavo.
Be attentive and observe ignorance and evil unmasked. It does America good to see the hateful beast that Karl Rove and Bush let out of the cage in their quest for power. Now let's see if anyone can control it.
Even in children's books, the story is always very clear. When you summon a demon to do your bidding, sooner or later you lose control of it and everyone suffers for it including the person who summoned it. The NeoCons thought they could control the fascist mentality that they were encouraging post 9/11. Now it seems to have taken a life of its own.
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Which party would have fought to the death to keep paying for Terri's care if that is what she wanted, and to do so behind the scenes with no political grand standing?
Which party would have spewed venom at even the thought of paying to help someone in need?
We know who would have fought to provide
care for Terri, had that been her wish.
The same party that has been fighting for
years, maybe decades to get decent health
care for all our citizens-The Democrats!
This nightmare may never end. The culture of life, what a horrible joke. These are the same guys who don't care about anyone who doesn't vote for them. I believe that we should call it the hypocritic cult. Delay wants to bring down all of the judges before he gets indicted. Then, he can ask King George to rule in his case or send it to Congress. I think that the founders of this country must be rolling over in their graves to see how lost and confused many of our citizens are. Ralph " I have never been married Nader" had to put in his two useless cents worth too. He is just upset because no one cares enough about him to try to carry out his last wishes. Even the manatees don't like him anymore because he gave us this circus in Washington. We should no longer call it the White House,it has become the Holy Tabernacle of Deception, Lying, and Pandering.Everyone who has a loved one in a Persistent Vegetative State today should be calling Tom Delay to get their relative's rehabilitation paid for by Congress. I don't think that many will do this because they have looked into those vacant eyes and know that just because the lungs still expand and exchange air, the heart beats, the blood circulates, and the gastrointestinal tract digests, their love one's ability to think is gone. Only the people who don't use their brains at all in normal life would want to exist this way. We need to show the world what fools these people are.
Submitted by futurepsycdoc on April 1, 2005 - 6:22pm.
I would like to see the Dems push education on the right to die. I am still saddened by Kevorkian's imprisonment. Enabling people to live and die with dignity should be a focal point of the Schiavo case. It should focus on communication between family members and official paperwork to enforce wishes.
The real crime here is that we had to starve a woman to death just to carry out her last wishes. That is a travesty. Where is our Jeb and Jesse to discuss the inhumane treatment we can legally force ourselves into if we become incapacitated?
Did anyone else listen to the comments that Jesse Jackson was making? I could have sworn he was discussing the fact that Teri had to be starved to death, instead of forcing her to remain alive in a state she would have preferred death over.
Also, this case was yet another attempt by the Repugs to destroy the freedom of the individual and our right to choose our own fate.
When I worked in a nursing home I witnessed individuals who chose to quit eating thus starving themselves to death. It was a choice, and they went with dignity. Michael Shaivo had to fight long and hard to allow his wife to complete this journey. Unfortunately our political "leaders" and our media and Terri's parents took away much of her dignity.
why is it legal and justified to put an animal out of his/her misery by euthanasia,
but punishable by jailtime when applied to a terminally ill and suffering human being?
Actually, it's "legal" to put an animal out of their misery just because they're homeless. The Humane Society does it every day to thousands of them.
Homeless humans on the other hand, are put out of their "misery" much more slowly through neglect, ignorance, and apathy.
Both examples are equally inhumane, cruel, unecessary, and are brought about by neglect, and thoughtlessness. What if we actually cared enough about all life to nurture and "husband" it to its natural, humane, and inevitable conclusion?
I'm a big advocate of neutering and spaying animals.
You made a powerful point regarding homeless people.
We spend billions on killing people in wars. Why can't we
help our own people, who need the basics in life?
You sound like a Democrat.;-)
After 13 days of being
disconnected from her feeding tube,
Terri passed on this morning.
May she finally have the peace she
deserved all along.
Interview
Here's an interview with her husbands brother
http://www.johnandkenshow.com/audio.php?offset=0&per_page=15
Thank you for the news.
In my opinion, her soul was in a better place 15 years ago.
She is now completely at peace.
Vince, I agree with you.
Now she is completely at peace.
I agree with all of you
Rest in peace, Terri.
To Terri
I believe that Terri may be going to a far,far better place than we have ever known. I know that she will rest in peace. However, the lunatics are on the television again with Tom Delay making statements tnat could be interpreted as either veiled threats or subtle suggestions. This was never, ever about disability or not respecting life. The judicial system heard the facts and made a decision. I think that the AMA needs to come forth and question the credentials of the doctors who were experts for the Schindler family. Some physicians will say anything for money. We are human and have many complex emotions. However, we are also blessed with the ability to think. Someone needs to get this message out before we see the end of all reason.
Good riddance
I thought that bitch would never die. People like her don't deserve to live. Ugly people make me puke and so do old people, retards and pricks in wheelchairs.
Now I'm going to the local nursing home and beat some old geezers with a crowbar until they die with dignity. Then I'm going to the mall and make fun of retarded kids until they cry and beat them with a crowbar until they die with dignity. Finally I'm going to look for people being kept artificially mobile in wheelchairs then beat them with a crowbar until they die with dignity.
Proud to be progressive.
troll
gogglespaisan, I hope our nation can undo some of the massive death and misery you and your ilk have caused.
Jim
Do you ever wonder what makes people like this googlespaisen tick?
Jim, Vince, he/she will get
what's deserved! What goes around, comes around!
Karma, baby.
true
My thoughts exactly Kwahlf -- yin-yang has it's ways too
Troll Alert!
Troll,I sure hope you're one of those spineless,
post and run creeps!
May you reap what you sow.
Bub bye...
Bub bye...
Thank you, Bill ;-)
You saved the day, again!
Hey Bill
I know you guys have access to the magic numbers machine. By chance was this Troll "Angel of Death". Seemed to be his style, though I amazed he learned about paragraphs.
I don't think so. as he didn'
I don't think so, as he didn't appear to be a past offender.
rest in Peace
Terri Schiavo was a good person rest in peace terri
Thankfully, Terri's wishes wer
Thankfully, Terri's wishes were carried out despite death threats by the fascist mentalities of right wingers and the totalitarian impulses of the Bush regime. Her husband and the judicial system are true heroes for having stood up to such insanity and respecting her wishes despite vile threats and slander.
Now America will have an opportunity to see the true face of evil that comprises the right wing persona. Already, on chat boards, their hatred is driving them to new lows as they gnash their teeth in frustration at not having been able to claim a ghoulish victory over the tragedy of Terri Schiavo.
Be attentive and observe ignorance and evil unmasked. It does America good to see the hateful beast that Karl Rove and Bush let out of the cage in their quest for power. Now let's see if anyone can control it.
Even in children's books, the story is always very clear. When you summon a demon to do your bidding, sooner or later you lose control of it and everyone suffers for it including the person who summoned it. The NeoCons thought they could control the fascist mentality that they were encouraging post 9/11. Now it seems to have taken a life of its own.
living will
Does anyone know of a web site where you can download living wills. True I could invent my own but someone out there might have additional ideas.
Try this website: http://w
Try this website:
http://www.nhpco.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3965
Living Will
Thanks Bill, that site worked just great, gave me the information specific to my state.
Will take a look at Quicken also.
Quicken Will Maker
I don't usually like doing commercials, but this product is worth every penny for wills, powers of attorneys, and estates. Do it your self, have a lawyer review if you wish, and get thee to a notary public with witnesses.
QUESTION:Which party woul
QUESTION:
Which party would have fought to the death to keep paying for Terri's care if that is what she wanted, and to do so behind the scenes with no political grand standing?
Which party would have spewed venom at even the thought of paying to help someone in need?
Jim, excellent questions.
We know who would have fought to provide
care for Terri, had that been her wish.
The same party that has been fighting for
years, maybe decades to get decent health
care for all our citizens-The Democrats!
The culture of life
This nightmare may never end. The culture of life, what a horrible joke. These are the same guys who don't care about anyone who doesn't vote for them. I believe that we should call it the hypocritic cult. Delay wants to bring down all of the judges before he gets indicted. Then, he can ask King George to rule in his case or send it to Congress. I think that the founders of this country must be rolling over in their graves to see how lost and confused many of our citizens are. Ralph " I have never been married Nader" had to put in his two useless cents worth too. He is just upset because no one cares enough about him to try to carry out his last wishes. Even the manatees don't like him anymore because he gave us this circus in Washington. We should no longer call it the White House,it has become the Holy Tabernacle of Deception, Lying, and Pandering.Everyone who has a loved one in a Persistent Vegetative State today should be calling Tom Delay to get their relative's rehabilitation paid for by Congress. I don't think that many will do this because they have looked into those vacant eyes and know that just because the lungs still expand and exchange air, the heart beats, the blood circulates, and the gastrointestinal tract digests, their love one's ability to think is gone. Only the people who don't use their brains at all in normal life would want to exist this way. We need to show the world what fools these people are.
I keep thinking that the sact
I keep thinking that the sactity of life should be allowed to embrace dignity in death.
Tom Delay is a proven hypocrit on so many levels.
We all know the Bush Brothers are hypocrits.
I'm all for your name for "them".
God bless Terri
I would like to see the Dems push education on the right to die. I am still saddened by Kevorkian's imprisonment. Enabling people to live and die with dignity should be a focal point of the Schiavo case. It should focus on communication between family members and official paperwork to enforce wishes.
The real crime here is that we had to starve a woman to death just to carry out her last wishes. That is a travesty. Where is our Jeb and Jesse to discuss the inhumane treatment we can legally force ourselves into if we become incapacitated?
Did anyone else listen to the comments that Jesse Jackson was making? I could have sworn he was discussing the fact that Teri had to be starved to death, instead of forcing her to remain alive in a state she would have preferred death over.
Also, this case was yet another attempt by the Repugs to destroy the freedom of the individual and our right to choose our own fate.
Doctors say starving to death
Doctors say starving to death is not painful
When I worked in a nursing home I witnessed individuals who chose to quit eating thus starving themselves to death. It was a choice, and they went with dignity. Michael Shaivo had to fight long and hard to allow his wife to complete this journey. Unfortunately our political "leaders" and our media and Terri's parents took away much of her dignity.
Along those lines,
why is it legal and justified to put an animal out of his/her misery by euthanasia,
but punishable by jailtime when applied to a terminally ill and suffering human being?
Because...
we ARE NOT ANIMALS!!! Oh shit, wait a minute...
LOL, clwilk, it sneaks up on you,
doesn't it?
We are hairy,warm blooded mammals!
Especially GM...
Especially GM and Jim...
LOL and COL, now Bill
be nice!;-)
(they may read this)
Ok, I might be a little furry
Ok, I might be a little furry, but my knuckles are are smooth as a baby's bottom from dragging on the ground.
As long as
other parts aren't dragging. We'd have to create a sixth taxonomy kingdom. What should we call it? How about Johnholmesae?
Trust me, genetics have ensur
Trust me, genetics have ensured that there's no danger in that. Sigh...
I don't know.
Heard a lot of "divet" stories GM.
Sigh yet again.
My inadequacy is multi-faceted.
Actually, it's "legal" to put
Actually, it's "legal" to put an animal out of their misery just because they're homeless. The Humane Society does it every day to thousands of them.
Homeless humans on the other hand, are put out of their "misery" much more slowly through neglect, ignorance, and apathy.
Both examples are equally inhumane, cruel, unecessary, and are brought about by neglect, and thoughtlessness. What if we actually cared enough about all life to nurture and "husband" it to its natural, humane, and inevitable conclusion?
I guess Bill...
that would make us Liberals.
You're right Bill.
I'm a big advocate of neutering and spaying animals.
You made a powerful point regarding homeless people.
We spend billions on killing people in wars. Why can't we
help our own people, who need the basics in life?
You sound like a Democrat.;-)
I'm a big advocate of neuteri
I'm a big advocate of neutering repug house leaders. Who's with me?
But what would they eat if th
But what would they eat if they didn't have young ones around?
I hear that crow is tasty.
I hear that crow is tasty.
Feet taste like chicken.
Feet taste like chicken.
I second!
I second!