US gas prices skyrocketing
http://www.kwwl.com/Global/story.asp?S=3080463 KWWL.COm GAS PRICES A PENNY FROM NATIONAL RECORD
http://www.kokh25.com/uploads/local/oklahoma_ok/27378bc1.shtml AAA reports record high gas prices
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&id=86179 US gas prices near nominal record
Crude oil briefly retreated Tuesday after an OPEC committee said it would urge the cartel to boost production at Wednesday's meeting. But after falling to $54.25, it rallied to $55.45, before settling up 10 cents to $55.05 a barrel. Last week prices stretched as high as $55.65, close to its $55.67 October record.
http://www.investors.com/editorial/general01.asp?v=3/15
Tomorrow’s OPEC meeting is unlikely to provide many clues about the future price of oil, since most observers predict that the majority of cartel members favor a "wait and see" approach to production and current crude prices.
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Average Cost is at $2.05
The average price at the pump is about $2.05.
I know near Chicago it's about $2.15 and increasing.
Here's another article to go along with the topic.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7201322/
In OC, California
Mid range gas is $2.27-2.38/ gallon.
Los Angeles is slightly lower.
It hurts to say it, but expen
It hurts to say it, but expensive gasoline may be the only thing that stops us from building and buying those city block size, gas guzzling SUVs. Isn't that unfettered capitalism at its best?
Except
our dim bulb of a Gov. wants to discourage people from buying hybrids. He blames hybrids for reducing the state's income from gasoline taxes, therefore he wants GPS on all cars so he can tax us by the number of miles driven. Can we all wish bad thoughts on Ahkmet Schwarzenstinger?
Is that a joke? Does Governo
Is that a joke? Does Governor Shitforbrainsenegger realize what an incredible investment it would take to implement that technology? Off the top of my head, I would imagine that it would be at least a couple orders of magnitude more expensive to do that, just to ensure that a handful of hybrids aren't cheating the system.
What an asshole...
I heard that too, I dont thin
I heard that too, I dont think there is any feasable way that could work. Sure you could build em into new cars, all cars with OnStar have em. But what about older cars. Who would pay to have them retrofitted? The car owners so they can then pay for the increased taxes?? Gotta be the dumbest Repug idea yet.
My point was that they can't
My point was that they can't even track known terrorists in our country. How in the F$#*%ing world are they going to track millions of CA cars simultaneously? Are they going to have an IRS agent come and read the odometer on your car every year?
Gropinator - an ass?!
Oh, come on. Ass is such a nice animal: intelligent, obedient, sociable...
Herr Gropinator has a bad case of elephantiasis.
"The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself." (Proverbs 11:25)
Noted, and fixed. You should
Noted, and fixed. You should be pleased now.
Just a few more letters
- and when you say it, you can't help but see Herr Gropinator's face.
Of course one can go native and say Herr Gropinator ist ein Arschloch.
(I hope he reads this.)
BTW, gas prices in Pueblo CO are around $2.10
"The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself." (Proverbs 11:25)
clever, clever
Last I heard, the plan was to put RF readers on the gas pump, link a RF transmitter to your car's odo, then assess the per-mile tax when you buy gas
The idea's not without merit for the DISTANT future. If you go by the theory that road taxes are supposed to pay for road upkeep, a mile driven = a mile driven = a mile driven.
Of course, per gallon taxes are a great way to tax the negative externalities of burning gasoline.
Big downside for ending the gallon tax and replacing it with a mileage tax... it will shift more of the tax burden onto the drivers of more efficient cars (higher MPG) and away from the drivers of less efficient cars.
Perhaps Detroit put him up to this?
Since roadways, bridges, side
Since roadways, bridges, sidewalks, airways, sea lanes, harbors, and airports are all public avenues of transportation, shouldn't everyone pay taxes for the building and upkeep of these basic civil infrastructure improvements?
Everyone benefits from these government-provided facilities, one way or another. If the tax system was "fair and balanced," there would be no need for additional punitive taxation. Most states already compute vehicle registration fees by weight, so that would be an avenue to weed out the gas guzzlers from the lighter, more efficient cars and trucks (CAFE Standards).
Of course, the Republican remedy would be to privatize the Department of Transportation and allow a Halliburton-clone to collect toll fees. These couldn't be called "taxes" as the People would have no control (representation) over the amounts charged.
haven't considered user fees vs. public good argument
I haven't really considered the 'everyone pays b/c everyone benefits' side of it. Historically, most public infrastructure HAS been paid for through user fees rather than through general tax revenue.
The gasoline tax is a proxy for a road user fee since it's not feasible (or a good idea) to tax every road. Airports/seaports both charge hefty user fees to the commercial users of the facilities. Etc.
(BIG note on accuracy: most public infrastructure is really funded thorough government bonds. A municipality puts its credit on the line to advance money to build something big... if all goes well, user fees from the completed project pay interest and eventually redeem the bonds.)
Roads can generate a lot of windfall benefits in certain situations, but I'll be damned if there's any easy way to assess that. It seems a per-mile user fee would flow down to the ultimate beneficiaries of direct road use.
The little old lady from Pasa
The little old lady from Pasadena doesn't drive, but she has everything delivered: FedEx, UPS, taxis, etc. Shouldn't she pay for road use as well? The stuff that is delivered is transported through the airports and harbors. Shouldn't she pay taxes for these as well?
The various transportation companies charge her a "delivery fee" but she is really just paying a share of the tax anyway. Why not just pay the tax up front through the general excise, state, or federal systems and eliminate the middle man?
User fees are ultimately unfair to a percentage of the private users, and commercial users just pass on their costs to the consumer.
I can imagine this at
it's extreme. A toll booth at every bridge. Every village has a toll booth at all vehicular entrances to the village. Citizens buy a annual pass, everyone else pays cash. We go back to the day when the police and fire departments charge per visit to your home, your you bought insurance to cover such visits. Every expressway has toll booths at entrances. The list could go on and on, HEY, this could be a Friday Humor Forum topic!
Sorry Ma'am, I'd point the fi
Sorry Ma'am, I'd point the firehose at your house, but I just read the microchip in your forehead and it says you haven't paid your neocon death cult membership fees this month. We're gonna have to let 'er burn. Here have a marshmallow, though.
This could be a Friday Funnies topic, but there's a problem; it's not funny.
Update, OC. CA.
Mid range gasoline is now
$ 2.49-$2.69/ gallon.
Some stations sell gas
for over $3.00/ gallon.
This means the price of everything that needs to be delivered
by truck is going up.
That means the price of every
That means the price of everything is gonna go up. Every single thing in or around your house has been on a truck at least once. Hopefully the automakers in Detroit will pull their heads outta their asses and start making hybred and electric cars the norm, not the exception. Hey maybe even fuel cell cars, the technology is there but the auto industry says it isn't feasable because they cant go over 200 mi. without refueling, lol neither can most SUV's
I like to ride my bicycle...
Just brought it back from a Spring tune-up. Either will invest in a little trailer to do my shopping, or will go as far as purchasing one of the more efficient pedal-powered cars.
Worst will happen - I still have 3 horses to ride.
Screw dubya and co, I have gas-less transportation until they come up with alternative energy source.
Just kidding, of course I use a car - but only when it is justified. Like for example: distance > 20 miles one way, or load too heavy for a bike.
"The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself." (Proverbs 11:25)
Gas prices just broke record
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/11268859.h...
Um, it is too late to develop alternative energy. In order to develop new energy, you need to use old energy (which is now too costly). It is all explained better on www.dieoff.com. or just google "emergy"
these folks are blaming George
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6567707029&rd=1&sspag...
and the Magnet at www.thanksalotw.com is perfect!
All right Stinger
You have succeded in owning the entire "active forums" board. Are we indulging for any particular reason???
YYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHH !!!!!
We are on the lucky end... Bu
We are on the lucky end... But is still TOO much... Gas in my area is $1.95
"I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies"
The Atheist Bible(My website)
I'm in Seattle for today
I'm in Seattle for today and it's as high as $2.26 for regular unleaded and $2.46 for premium. But what ever we do don't let them drill for oil in that barren wasteland in Alaska called ANWAR.
Chicago Gas Prices
I'm near Chicago, and unleaded is $2.30. Jumped $0.12 in the last 4 days. Right on about the ANWR, I was at a War Protest today in Milwaukee and that the environment and oil was talked about.
I'm saving up for a hybrid, save me money on gas in the long run easier on nature.
Jonathan
I HEAR YOU!
My sentiments, exactly.
Oil Prices hit new record-just hours
before the vote on ANWAR.
Hmm--just hours before.
http://energy.senate.gov/news/rep_release.cfm?id=233653
thanks Yellow Dog Blue
I get it now -- maybe #@%&*ing Bush Administration is smarter than I thought...just as conniving as ever though.
Ah #@%&, the universal word.
Ah #@%&, the universal word. It's a verb, it's a noun, it's an adjective, it's an adverb. Plus it's very low in carbs.
Plus you have used it in all of it's various acceptable spelling forms. #@%&ing nice!
Real Reason for HIGH gas prices!!!
Looks like the Bush policy of PRIVATIZATION is the reason gas prices are so high.
Entire article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm
War does not determine who is right, war determine who is left.
Gas prices hit record highs and are expected to rise
http://www.kget.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=29D62E75-4F2D-4C87-...
Gas prices hit record highs and are expected to rise
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Prices at the pump have jumped to record levels -- and are expected to keep rising for the foreseeable future.
Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg says the average retail price for grades of gasoline increased 12-point-74 cents to two dollars, 13 cents per gallon in the two-week period ending Friday.
Jack the price up even more
What a great way to win the votes of the fence straddlers,quasi democrats and environmentalists. Jack the price up even more and most everyone raised on the teats of Detroit will agree, ANWR is a desolate place and needs to be exploited, Jack it up even more and even democrats will be voting repuglican and replacing progressive talk with war mongering.
We need our gas hogs to help establish our egos, out sense of freedom. Ahhh the open road, an advertising dream of some past life on wheel, is indelible meme. Only a severe climate change will knock some sense into us.
Crude futures stayed flat in Asia on Mo, hugging a record closin
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/21/ap/business/mainD88V3VT80.shtm...
(AP) Crude futures stayed flat in Asia on Monday, hugging a record closing price from last week as traders speculated that rising global demand will not be met despite increased output assurances from oil cartel OPEC.
Light, sweet crude for April delivery was up three cents in after-hours electronic trading to $56.75 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange midmorning in Asia. The benchmark commodity surged 32 cents to close at $56.72 per barrel Friday.
Heating oil for April rose marginally to $1.5783 per gallon Monday.
Prices have risen by about a third this year, fueled by a late cold snap across the world's largest energy consumer, the United States. They also have been underpinned by a weak dollar and rising global demand at a time when there is very little excess supply available
Wherefore Art Thou, Energy Policy? 3$ a gallon
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=13634&catcode=1...
60$ a barrel
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=156,175&sid=175&article=8315
Which gas to buy...
STOP BUYING 'ARAB GAS'...
EXXON/MOBIL
CHEVRON
SHELL
START BUYING 'OTHER' RESOURCED GAS:
SUNOCO
HESS
CITGO
It is true that
SUNOCO, HESS and CITGO use less Mid-East oil sources. However, this line of thinking is flawed, and I know your hearts in the right place. If we buy more gas from those three and less from the first three, then they will need to account for the increase in sales by buying more oil, right? Where would they get it? Middle East. Right back to square one. The only solution here is to reduce our dependence on oil. BUY A HYBRID or ELECTRIC car. Switching companies won't affect anything.
This does'nt begin to approach the greater need
which among other things, a cleaner energy source including funding for a mass integration foundation. This new technology could be put on the front burner and churned out within a matter of months. Look how fast the IT sector grew once it had money to nurture it. So in a sense, it is not entirely fair or useful to blame Arabs or any other party except ourselves. Americans are apathetic to change. But, as evolution has shown, if you cannot adapt you will perish.
You are exactly correct. The
You are exactly correct. The Arabs are just pawns who accepted wealth in exchange for allowing Royal Dutch Shell, Halliburton, et al. to control the oil empire.
These are the same people who oppose research and/or legislation aimed at cleaner, more economical forms of energy, until they can figure out a way to control it.
The choices we make today wil
The choices we make today will have far reaching effects. Our world's resources are beginning to dwindle. The future won't be about oil, it will be about water or who knows what other precious resource.
Oil is just another piece of the resource pie. And the sad thing is, it will never 'be' about anything else than oil unless we stop wasting resources on it and get our heads straight on the fact that a resource starved planet is avoidable with foresight and proper 'planetary-husbandry' (or '-wifendry'?).
But the current path we are on is apocalyptic by comparison.
Thank you, Veritas2020!
I will buy gas at Citgo!
Citgo
I buy Citgo all the time and I plan on buying a hybrid later this year!
doesn't matter who you buy from
Oil is fungible. It doesn't matter who you buy from, or where "your" gas was pumped out of the ground. Consuming a gallon of Citgo (assuming it's 100% non-OPEC) gas benefits OPEC just as much as consuming a gallon of pure OPEC gas.
Now... consuming one less gallon all together... that's a different story. Hybrid/bike/public trans/carpool anyone?
Saudia Arabia sets the price
Saudi Arabia sets the price for gas - period. Robert Baer said that everytime Americas fill up the tanks with gas about $1.00 of that money goes to keeping the Saudi royal family heads attached to their necks. The only thing to do is to CONSUME less gas!
War does not determine who is right, war determine who is left.
Where you buy gas does matter...
Unless you drive a hybrid?
The United Emirates (Dubai) is the independent and free portion of Saudi Arabia. --(I use to work for Mobil Oil/Middle East Dept--back in the 90's)..I'm glad I left this 'thankless job'...and went on to bigger and greater things.
Companies like SunoCo, AmoCo, CITgo, HESS,; are not purchasing 'millions of barrels' from Arab Oil Co's --even though the gas pump price is still the same at the gas station (due to pressure and oil companies jacking up the price//(competition)...it does make a difference.
---Gas tax dollars all go to the same place; but where your 'refinery and reserves ' are located is what makes the difference.
OPEC is not driving the 'high cost of gas' right now ; its companies like Exxon/Mobil and all the top oil companies through out the world that have 'oil reserves' sitting in Arab countries and remote locations outside the U.S.
Its mostly due to high 'deficits' and 'high cost' of 'oil reserves'. The U.S. doesn't have 'oil reserves' (substantial enough)'..therefore; the higher cost is similar to import costs.
The Bush administration should be doing something about the 'price gouging'..(Nixon) 1972 -- and the late (Reagan) late 80's.
2nd biggest mount in prices ever last month
http://www.kbtv4.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8193
Gas prices in Jefferson rising
http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/0322gas-suv22-ON.html
Arizona Republic SUV sales endangered
Rising prices of gasoline across the U.S. are raising vital questions in Detroit: Will prices keep going up? And if they do, will that prompt Americans to accelerate their shift away from the auto industry's cash cows, big sport-utility vehicles?
http://www.freep.com/money/business/gas22e_20050322.htm
Gas prices hit record in state
Worldwide demand increases
March 22, 2005
BY ALEJANDRO BODIPO-MEMBA
FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER
Michigan motorists are paying the most ever for gasoline at the pump, and there is no end in sight.
The reasons prices continue to escalate range from political tensions in key oil-producing nations to increased demand from China and India. At the center of the debate, most industry experts say, is exponential growth of worldwide demand for oil.
http://www.crmbuyer.com/story/Inflation-at-Wholesale-Level-Up-in-Februar... (customer relationship management)
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Inflation-at-Wholesale-Level-Up-in-Fe... (same article)
The energy price increase was led by a 5.2 percent spike in gasoline prices, the biggest increase since a 12.8 percent rise last October. Liquefied petroleum gas, used to heat homes, and home heating oil also showed increases in February.
http://www3.cjad.com/content/cp_article.asp?id=/global_feeds/CanadianPre...
Oil prices hit record levels last week, raising new worries that a fresh round of surging energy prices could trigger a breakout of inflation in other areas. The government reported on Monday that gasoline pump prices have risen by more than 10 per cent in the past month to an average of $2.11 a gallon countrywide.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=604985
The energy price increase was led by a 5.2 percent spike in gasoline prices, the biggest increase since a 12.8 percent rise last October. Liquefied petroleum gas, used to heat homes, and home heating oil also showed increases in February.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-gas22mar22,1,4363219.story?coll=la...
High-cost oil sent California's average gasoline price to $2.312 a gallon and pushed the U.S. average to a record $2.109 for a gallon of self-serve regular gasoline, the Energy Department said Monday.
Drivers in California paid 2.5 cents a gallon more on average than they did a week ago, while the average U.S. retail price rose 5.3 cents, according to the weekly gas station survey by the Energy Information Administration, the Energy Department's statistical arm.
California's gas average is 22.9 cents higher than at this time last year but is still 9 cents short of the all-time high set in October. The U.S. average is up 36.6 cents from a year ago.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/22/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm
Stocks, bonds sink
Market tumbles after Federal Reserve raises rates as expected but cautions about inflation.
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Stocks and Treasury bond prices slumped Tuesday after the Fed raised short-term interest rates by a quarter-percentage point, as expected, but signaled that its rate-hiking campaign was unlikely to stop any time soon.
For more on the Fed announcement, click here.
The Dow Jones industrial average (down 94.88 to 10,470.51, Charts) fell 0.9 percent and the broader Standard & Poor's 500 (down 12.07 to 1,171.71, Charts) index fell 1 percent, both closing at more than seven-week lows.
The Nasdaq composite (down 18.17 to 1,989.34, Charts) lost 0.9 percent, closing at a new 2005 low.
"With equity markets closing at their lows of the day Tuesday, the likelihood is that trading may get off to weak start on Wednesday morning," Michael Sheldon, chief market strategist at Spencer Clarke wrote in a late-afternoon note on Tuesday.
Treasury prices tumbled Tuesday after the Fed announcement. The slide in prices raised the yield on the 10-year note to 4.62 percent -- the highest in eight months -- from 4.52 percent late Monday. Bond prices and yields move in opposite directions.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/22/news/fortune500/alcoa.reut/index.htm
ALCOA cuts 2000 jobs
Gasoline: up 19.7 percent in the past 12 months
Gasoline rose 17 cents a gallon over the four weeks through March 21, bringing the average price for regular unleaded around the country to $2.07. No let up seems near. On March 8, the Department of Energy released its revised price projections for petroleum upward another $2; it now says oil will average $48.70 a barrel for the first quarter of 2005.
Gasoline at the pump costs Americans 19.7 percent more than a year ago. If that percentage holds for the year, it means an added expenditure for the average motorist (who burns about 550 gallons of gas annually, according to AAA) of about $188 in 2005.
Trucking costs: up 6.4 percent
With fuel so costly, the cost of trucking goods has followed; the government's Bureau of Labor Statistics says that they climbed 6.4 percent from January 2004 to January 2005.
International flights: up 10.5 percent
High crude oil prices have also contributed to rising air fares. The cost of scheduled air travel was up only slightly for the year, but it jumped from the late fall of 2004 to early 2005 when crude prices took off, rising 10.5 percent form November to January on international flights and 3.7 percent from September to January for domestic flights.
Construction materials: up 9.4 percent
The combination of natural disasters and a home-building boom combined to reduce supplies and produce substantially higher building materials costs. Four separate hurricanes made landfalls in Florida and other states last storm season and destroyed or damaged thousands of residences, putting extra demand on the supply of building materials.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/21/pf/pricestrendinghigher/index.htm
Oil price dropping because Bush has stockpiles
Aha. So its dropping because Bush has large stockpiles of oil.
I mean Abrams tanks can go on uranium. But what about the other vehicles in Iraq? Despite, there was a hard winter in the US. So why are there large stockpiles?
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/03/22/oil.wedprice.ap/index.html
SINGAPORE, (AP) -- Crude futures fell in Asia on Wednesday for a second day as traders sold to reap profits ahead of a key U.S. petroleum stocks report.
Light, sweet crude stood at $55.32 per barrel in after-hours trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange midmorning in Asia -- a drop of $0.71 from its overnight close. The benchmark commodity declined nearly $1.50 to sit at $56.03 in its New York floor session on Tuesday.
Heating oil also fell Wednesday to $1.5325 per gallon (3.8 liters).
Oil is about 50 percent more expensive than a year ago but still well below the inflation-adjusted peak above $90 a barrel set in 1980. Prices have risen by about a third so far this year, fueled by a late cold snap across the world's largest energy consumer, the United States.
Later Wednesday, the U.S. Energy Department was expected to release its weekly supply report, and bullish details could send prices upward again.
War on terror masks oil monopoly...
In an interview with a Russian paper, the former chief of the Soviet Foreign Intelligence Service Leonid Shebarshin said the United States is trying to establish a monopolizing control of the world's richest oil reserves using the pretext of it fighting "international terrorism".
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=7422
This is convincing of the reason 'Iraq' was invaded ---I don't believe Bush cared if Iraq was a 'bare desert' without 'black gold'.--its all about the 'oil'...
BTW; 10 U.S. military bases are already being built throughout Iraq.--Halliburton (largest non-bid) contractor has been drilling in Iraq for the past (10) years.
I'm delivering pizzas now whi
I'm delivering pizzas now while I go to college and its really starting to cut into my pay. Even with a Escort it costs me twenty dollars to work a full shift. I know truckers are a very conservative group, I wonder how much the owner-operaters are singing his praises now.