Why don't you just run me as a candidate? I am Canadian, but what the hell, I bet that Arnold will be running at that point.

Question: What will happen in 2006? Will you be promoting Kerry for 2008, or will you be working to support a candidate to replace a Republican for a Congressional seat?

Most of us on this blog do not give a rip who "looks good" for the next presidential race right now. It doesn't matter. What matters is regaining seats in Congress, and in local state-wide elections. We need to rebuild and revitalize the Democractic Party from the grass roots up.

Support Howard Dean and his efforts to re-energize the DNC, and to rid the Party of the DLC centrists who have brought us to this sorry point in our history.

I would also second Bill's statement. We can mull over the possibilities of 2008 in our minds all we want, but our focus and our actions need to be about electing Dems in 2006. That is what we need to work for.
In the mean time we keep our current representative's "feet to the fire", regarding BA policies.

I'ts way too early, as stated by Kerry recently. First we have to get verifiable voting machines, then worry about '06. I would prefer Kerry to H. Clinton at this point. Never underestimate the "angry white male backlash" vote.

President: John F. Kerry

Vice-President: H. R. Clinton

And we have the whole 2006 election to tackle first...I suspect that we'll have a number of unanticipated options available in 3 years, and that neither Kerry nor Hillary will seem all that tasty to us then.

I'm supporting "None of the above" until I see a candidate who's able to use the word "LIAR" in the same sentence with GWB.

LIBERAL: If the word bothers you, then you don't know what it means.

Gore! Gore!

... as many in this thread have noted, it os 2005, not 2008, and we need to be looking at the congressional, state and local elections that are coming up.

Let's give the next Democratic President, whom we are going to elect in 2008, a Democratic congress and a clear majority of state governments. If we can win in Montana, we can win everywhere. Until then, let's not pre-obsess over who he, or she, is going to be.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE CONFRONTED WITH THIS EVERY OTHER WEEK. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON 2005 AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND WORLD MISAFFAIRS. BILL NEEDS TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT. MAYBE IF HE HAD BEHAVED BETTER, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD VALUES CRAMMED DOWN OUR THROAT. WHILE IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T DESERVE KENNETH STARR, IT STILL WAS UNSAVORY. I AM OF THE SCHOOL THAT BELIEVES HILLARY HAS TOO HIGH A NEGATIVE RATING AND I AM A LIBERAL FEMALE WHO GOES TO WORK EVERYDAY. BILL'S HEART PROBLEMS HINDERED HIS CAMPAIGNS FOR KERRY AND HIS ADVICE WASN'T TOO GOOD EITHER. HE NEEDS TO FIND ANOTHER HOBBY FOR NOW. JOHN EDWARDS FOUND A VERY GOOD OUTLET. BILL DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN POLITICIZE.

I agree with everyone except the Hillary and Gore pounder, which sounds like a repug attack ad a tad early.

2008 is irrelevent. 2005, and 2006, and what the democrats do for our stance now is all that matters. I am willing to consider each and everyone of our great democratic leaders so long as they stand up and fight. No fight now equals no vote in 2008. And I have no problem these potential 2008 candidates taking different paths - left-leaning, anti-war, centrists, what-ever - so long as they stand up and fight when the right tries to push their agenda through congress.

John Kerry ALREADY beat George W. in an election. But even though he was told the Republicans were going to steal the election, he ran out on us. Why on earth would we support Kerry ever again?

It pains me to say negative things about Kerry and Hillary because I still respect them both to a degree. But when it came to the sanctioning of Ohio's electoral votes, which granted was a symbolic battle, neither of them stood up for us. Kerry has never explained to his supporters why he hightailed it out of Dodge when the votes were being counted by the Republican voting machine companies. We needed his leadership at that moment, but he offered none. Hillary made a feisty little speech on January 6 but then voted against Barbara Boxer in sanctioning the Ohio votes. She is from the same overly-cautious camp that recognizes the brotherhood of the ruling elite before giving any consideration to those of us out of the limelight.

The good news is that we do have some highly intelligent, capable, AND courageous leaders in the House and one in the Senate. Those are the people I consider leaders. If you want to consider someone interesting for the future, look at Jesse Jackson Jr. or Mel Watt. There's also a young woman from Georgia (I think) who is very sharp and well-spoken -- Rep. Cynthia McKinney. And then there's the leader of the pack, Rep. John Conyers, who would make a great candidate for any office. I'm sorry that I don't recall all the names of those Congressmen and Congresswomen who stood up on January 6, but each and every one of them would get my support. And don't forget that Al Gore had the courage to fight for our votes in 2000 until the Supreme Court shut him down. So I would trust Al to fight for us again as well. We have lots of good people in the Democratic Party -- so we don't need to keep on wishing that the same ol' dogs will start hunting when we can get new ones.

I have said before and I will say again, we do not need country club liberals. We need down-in-the-trenches Democrats to battle the Republican machine. John Kerry and Hillary Clinton, and Bill Clinton as well for that matter, are not fighters. Think about it, if they had their druthers would they do lunch with you, or would they prefer do have lunch with Dennis Miller, the Schwartzeneggers, or the Bushes?

But those congressional reps and Senator Barbara Boxer, who fought for our votes on January 6, would probably be more interested in having lunch with a common citizen like you or me. Those are the people who deserve consideration for future races. Forget the elites!

Never ever concede to fraud.

Once again, I would like to remind everyone that it is counter-productive to argue about who each of us likes, or dislikes, as a potential presidential candidate in 2008. That choice will sort itself out beginning sometime in 2007, and we will have plenty of time to discuss it then.

Our Party is badly in need of unity and of being re-energized -- right now, at this very point-in-time. I am extremely proud of Sen. Barbara Boxer and Rep. John Conyers for their stand on the election issues. I am equally proud of Howard Dean for choosing to help us accomplish a make-over of the Democratic Party, and to reverse the debillitating consequences of the DLC's influence.

Bashing the sitting Democrat members of Congress is also counter-productive, regardless of how you view them personally. We desperately need their voices in Congress, and in the public forum, to help us fix the problems with the voting process. We need every ounce of support we can muster, if we are to take back our rightful place in the American political system.

Support ALL Democrats, and especially Howard Dean. The DLC centrists in our party will either see the light, or they will be replaced as necessary. Until then, we need even them.

Right now the only thing I am concerned about is Tim Kaine 2005 for Virginia Gov. We need to keep a democrat in office here!
(Warner can't serve more then one term :( ) I will worry about 2006 when it comes

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