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- Bob Fertik
I read this site and I am amazed,This is the most ideallogical nonsense I have ever heard.First, Bush does not care about you or about this country.He is in bed with the most ruthless,Who will control everything you read.view and see.The jews have taken control of Washington and hollywood and madison avenue along with the courts and the education systems.I can not believe that most people can't see past their misrable little lives to get the big picture.We would rather watch some Soap opera like desperate housewives and talk about it the next day at the water cooler.I also believe the same people that have the republiucans by the neck also have the democrats by the balls.Until we shake all foriegn influence from our elected offices,We will never be free.we will continue to answer for the Holacost Fairy tale which gets played like a broken record.We back a country in the mideast that does abosolutly nothing but cause trouble,Hell they stole the land they sit on and have the balls to call the people they shit on dailey terroists.The jews took down the world trade center with the help of inside Mossad agents acting as americans.AND BUSH KNOWS THIS and I also believe Kerry knows too.(I am really a jew because my dad was) We are being taken and until a REAL AMERICAN steps up to the plate this will continue.Believe me when I say I am not a racesist I give everyone the same fair equal treatment but please spare me the smoke and mirrors I am far too intellegent for this shit you feed me everyday.


I find your comments offensive
and somewhat hate mongering, but I'll put that aside long enough to offer a thoughtful response.
I realize that nothing George W. Bush utters can be trusted. I also realize that any segment of footage that the government releases can be a staged play designed to peddle fear. (I didn't say that they ARE releasing such video - I'm saying Bush can't be trusted not to. I also realize that bin Laden has never been tried for allegations that he was the mastermind behind 9/11.
I can almost understand why you would think Israel (not jews) would pull such a stunt, acting in concert with the Bush administration to open the door for conflict in the ME. (I didn't say I believe that happened. Again, I'm saying I don't trust Bush.)
But, I disagree with you that there is some Jewish takeover of America and that 'Jews' are responsible for 9/11.
The US falling all over Israel because of George W. Bush's rightwing extremist fundamentalist following. It's Biblical in nature. It does not mean 'Jews' did anything to the United States.
While I do see a stronger alliance between Israel and the US since the whacko took over the WH, what I don't see, is some vast Jewish conspiracy to take over the US.
Sorry.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
People seem to remove the parts they don't like
Again I hate knowone,However I dislike any foriegn goverment that puts a stranglehold on my goverment.The Us gives isreal 31 billion a year part of that money is mine.I would never contribute to build a wall (aparthide) They treat the palastineians like lower then second class dirt.Jews control the media in the us so we get the real jews news (13 year old girl dies after isreal soldier empties his full clip into her lifeless body while laughing)it' true but you wont see that on NBS,CBS,or Isner' ABC Oh and you cant drive on this road this is for jews only.And we pay for this.Isreal has lied, stoled,SPIED,and murdered.Our goverment is just a puppet to the isreal goverment. Until we remove this festering cancer from our decision makers we will decline into slavery.
Is this the only issue you care about?
I've been on political boards for over four years now, and anyone else who has, knows that the I/P issue is one of those hot button issues that no one is going to agree on, especially in the democratic camp.
The issue has been used to literally tear up democratic boards, and many of those board administrators got to the point that they allowed the discussion only in a forum specifically designed for it, to keep the entire place from being dominated by hateful fighting/bickering about an issue of which (and, admit it) none of us know both sides.
Does American foreign policy suck? Yes. It is only foreign policy with Israel? No. Is George W. Bush the only problem? No. Sharon is considered by most of us to be an extremist boob. Does Bush have a willing partner in Sharon? More than likely. Does it do any of us any good to bicker back and forth about it? Not while George W. Bush is in there. Is it the one issue we can use to get our legislators to focus on the ineptitude sitting in the WH? No. Is it worth our time to concentrate on the issue, when it's not going to change a dayumed thing? No.
There are people dying all over this world from oppression and disease and we have a president who has focused all of our resources and attention in primarily one country, claiming that these people were oppressed when we really went in on national security concerns. If we can't get something done about the incompetent boob because of reasons like that, I'm not so sure what good it's going to do for us to bicker back and forth about the I/P issue - unless the objective would be just to flame each other over an issue most of us are too ill-informed to discuss objectively, in the first place.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
I find this even more offensive
This has been going on for years Now they have our politicians singing their song too. This is the classic by way of deception.We are being played Wake Up
Zionism and anti-semitism
We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize
that the Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish
People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the
instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in
the Holy Land and worldwide. The idea that Zionism and
the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is
probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the
Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews
been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!
Jews are enjoined by their religious laws to be loyal
to the country of which they are citizens. ever
since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem
and the exile of the Jewish People some two thousand
years ago, we have been enjoined to be scrupulously
loyal to the countries we reside in, One of the great
biblical prophets, Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book
proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled; verse
seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to
which I have exiled you and pray for it to the
Almighty, for through its welfare will you have
welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish
morality throughout our history to this very day.
Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with
their neighbors in every country among the community
of nations, including in historic Palestine. They
deplore acts and policies of violence carried out by
those who, misusing the name of Israel our forefather,
have substituted the ideal of chauvinist nationalism
for the eternal values of the Torah, the eternal
divinely bestowed inheritance of the Jewish people.
It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to
intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible,
and even more commonly, to take advantage of any
Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its
cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is
the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very
beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of
the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify
the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of
course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree.
Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of
Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews
in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true
nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist
state is their salvation.
ANTI-SEMITISM BY POLITICAL ZIONISM
Although Zionists and others dispute it, the
undeniable fact is that revolutionary secular and
apostate elements in the Jewish community in Europe
contributed greatly to hostility towards Jews after
World War I. This aroused hatred of Jews in general
among many non-Jews. While a prisoner in 1924 in the
fortress of Lansberg on the River Lech, Hitler wrote
his Mein Kampf. We he became Chancellor of Germany in
1933, he was assisted by Goebbels, Roseberg and
Streicher. From them came the declarations, “The Jews
of Germany caused the defeat of Germany in the
1914-1918 war; the Jews of Germany were responsible
for the terrible conditions in Germany that followed
the war; the Jews of Germany are foreigners and they
wish to remain foreigners; they have no loyalty to the
country of their birth; they are not human; they are
filthy dogs; they have no right to intrude into
Germany’s affairs; there are too many Jews in Germany.
As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism
and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify
hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of
political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . .
become worse. . . this will assist in realization of
our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall
induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .
The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they
will strengthen the persecution and oppression of
Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”.
(From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)
Additional words from the vivid imagination of this
dreamer, from p. 68 of Part I of his Diary.
So anti-Semitism, which is a deeply imbedded force in
the subconscious mind of the masses, will not harm the
Jews. I actually find it to be advantageous to
building the Jewish character, education by the masses
that will lead to assimilation. This education can
only happen through suffering, and the Jews will
adapt.
Hateful views of Jews as being subhuman did not have
to be invented by Nazi theorists such as Hitler,
Goebbels, Rosenberg and Streicher. This ideology was
simply adapted from statements of political Zionists
such as those found in the writings of the Zionist
Yehezkel Kaufman in 1933.
In 1920 there were statements hostile to Jews
expressed at Heidelberg University. These statements,
arguing that Jews of Germany had caused the turmoil
that followed the war; that the Jews of Germany had
nothing in common with Germans, and that Germans had
the right to prevent the Jews of Germany from
intruding into the affairs of their volk were not made
by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, but by Nahum Goldmann,
who went in to become the President of the World
Zionist Organization and head of the World Jewish
Congress, and, indisputably, the most influential
political Zionist in the world, second only to the
Prime Minister of the State of Israel.
In 1921, Germans in Germany were told that:
“We Jews are aliens… a foreign people in your midst
and we… wish to stay that way. A Jew can never be a
loyal German; whoever calls the foreign land his
Fatherland is a traitor to the Jewish people“.
Who spoke these vile words? It was Jacob Klatzkin, the
second of two political Zionist ideologists in Germany
at the time, where the Jews of Germany were enjoying
full political and civil rights. It was he who had
advocated undermining Jewish communities as the one
certain way of acquiring a state. “They had no qualms
concerning tearing down the existing Jewish
communities.”
Who spoke in a public address at a political Zionist
meeting in Berlin and declared that “Germany… has too
many Jews”? Was it Hitler or Goebbels? No, it was
Chaim Weizman, later to become the first President of
the State of Israel. This address was published in
1920, and, thus, four years before Hitler had even
written Mein Kampf.
How many Zionist Jews know of this vicious treachery
uttered by these senior political Zionist leaders,
these apostates from the Jewish People? At the
Nuremberg Trials of Major War Criminals, Nazi
propagandist, Julius Streicher testified: “I did no
more than echo what the leading Zionists had been
saying”, it is clear that he had told the truth.
In addition to Hitler, Rosenberg, Goebbels and
Streicher, many other Nazi leaders used statements
from Zionists to validate their charges against the
Jews of Germany. Such are the efforts of Zionist
leaders to this very day to maintain a high degree of
anti-semitism in order to enable them, in feigned
horror, to then point to anti-semitism to support
their idolatrous and anti-Jewish cause. In 1963, Moshe
Sharett, then Chairman of the Jewish Agency, told the
38th Annual Congress of the Scandinavian Youth
Federation that the freedom enjoyed by the majority of
Jews imperiled Zionism, and at the 26th World Zionist
Congress, the delegates were told that the Jew is
endangered by the easing of anti-Semitism in the
United States “We are endangered by freedom” he
declared.
As we stated earlier, Zionism thrives on
anti-Semitism. Ben Gurion declared, “…not always and
not everywhere do I opposed anti-Semitism”. Zionists
regularly pull out their handy “anti-Semite” race card
against anyone, Jew or non-Jew, who dares to speak out
against the wickedness of Zionism.
During World War II, the Lehi organization, an
offshoot of Begin’s Irgun that was headed by Yitzchak
Shamir sought an alliance with Nazis! The following is
a quote from the writings of the Lehi in their contact
with the Nazis:
"The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a
national and totalitarian basis and bound by a treaty
with the German Reich would be in the interests of
strengthening the future German position of power in
the Near East ... The NMO in Palestine offers to take
an active part in the war on Germany's side ... The
cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also
be in line with one of the recent speeches of the
German Reich Chancellor, in which Herr Hitler stressed
that any combination and any alliance would be entered
into in order to isolate England and defeat it."
To those who assume that Zionists have been on the
side of freedom and equality, these words seem
strange. However, to those who understand the root of
Zionism, which is the transformation and eradication
of the concept of the traditional Jew and Judaism,
these statements are not strange at all. They are to
be expected.
The Zionists agreed with Nazism in general, even prior
to the advent of Nazism. They believed that Jews could
not, and should not, live in harmony in any other
society in the world, and that should be removed from
those societies for the benefit of those societies.
They believed that the new Jewish existence in its own
State would remake the image of Jews as “useless” and
“parasites.” These ideas existed long before Adolf
Hitler!
There is a huge amount of literature describing how
the Zionists made it very difficult to save Jews
during and after World War II. As various individuals
and organizations were trying to arrange departures of
Jews to western countries, the Zionists worked
overtime to prevent this from happening. They
expressed the opinion that building up the Jewish
population of Palestine was more important than
enabling Jews to go to third countries, and they
insisted to western powers that Jews should not be
accepted anywhere other than Palestine. Indeed,
Yitzchak Greenbaum, a famous Zionist, proclaimed that
“one cow in Palestine was worth more than all the Jews
in Poland.” The infamous David Ben-Gurion said in
1938:
"If I knew it was possible to save all the children in
Germany by taking them to England, and only half of
the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would
choose the second solution. For we must take into
account not only the lives of these children but also
the history of the people of Israel."
For more information about the brutal Zionist role
during World War II, Click Here.
After the war, a Zionist “religious” leader, Rabbi
Klaussner, who was in charge of displaced persons
presented a report before the Jewish American
Conference on May 2nd, 1948 :
"I am convinced people must be forced to go to
Palestine...For them, an American dollar appears as
the highest of goals. By the word "force", I am
suggesting a programme. It served for the evacuation
of the Jews in Poland, and in the history of the
'Exodus'... To apply this programme we must, instead
of providing 'displaced persons' with comfort, create
the greatest possible discomfort for them...At a
second stage, a procedure calling upon the Haganah to
harass the Jews."
It is ironic that the Zionists proclaim their State as
the safe haven for the Jewish People, when since World
War II no place on earth has been as dangerous for
Jews, both spiritually and physically, as the Zionist
state.
The Zionists worked relentlessly to create fear among
Jews in the Arab countries after the Zionist state was
established. Their tactic work most successfully in
Yemen, Morocco, Iraq, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia.
It is common knowledge among Iraqi Jews that during
1949-1950 the famous Zionist, Mordechai ben Porat, who
had the nickname of Morad Abu al-Knabel (Mordechai
Bomber), was instrumental in seeking to bribe Iraqi
officials after the creation of the Zionist state to
pass laws to encourage Jews to leave Iraq. This was
enhanced by the Zionists planting bombs in synagogues
in Baghdad in March 1950. Information about this is
readily available on the internet. For more
information Click Here.
The writings of Mr. Naim Giladi document in detail
what the Zionists did in Baghdad in 1950 to provoke
the departure of the Jews to the Zionist state. The
Zionists do not care what effect their policies have
on the Jewish communities of any country. When they
accuse European nations of every sin under the sun, do
the Zionists care that this will produce hostility
towards Jews? No! Not a bit. On the contrary, as we
have discussed, they thrive on such circumstances,
clinging to the vain hope that these Jewish
communities will rush for the “salvation” of the “safe
haven” of the Zionist Paradise where Jews are in
constant danger as the Zionist regime undertakes every
form of cruel provocation against non-Jews.
In more recent times the Zionists have sought every
opportunity to encourage Jews to leave their home
countries. Anytime there is even the smallest event of
hostility toward Jews on the heels of Zionist policy,
or if there are signs of economic distress and
dislocation, the Zionists magnify it a thousand times,
seek to ruthlessly humiliate the nations involved, and
agitate for Jews to go to the Zionist state, the
so-called “natural home” of the Jewish People. This
has been the case in countries such as France,
Argentina, Uruguay, the former Soviet Union and Egypt.
The promises of the Torah are always to be realized.
This verse from the Torah demonstrates that those who
are his enemies will pay a price when The kingdom of
G-D will prevail.
Deuteronomy 32:43: Praise his People, O Nations: For
he will avenge the blood of his servants. He will
render vengeance against his adversaries and make
expiation for his land and his People.
I rest My Case
On October 3, 2000, IAP News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."
So let's see...
This presents quite a quandry. You claim that because an extremist (Sharon) claims that 'Jews' control America, that it's so. I'd like for you to tell me something, then:
Why does the US protect the Saudis in relationship to 9/11?
If you're going to change this from an issue of Israeli/US foreign policy, to 'Jews' vs America, perhaps speaking to you in a language you might understand will help.
If we're being controlled by the Jews, why are we protecting Arabs when it comes to the most devastating terrorist attack to occur on our own soil? I should think that would not only make the 'Jews' very mad, but it would also tell them that they don't control things.
Furthermore, if it was 'Jews' that attacked us on 9/11, could you explain for us please, why it is that the majority of the hijackers were Arab Islamic extremists? Does it make sense to you that Arabs and Jews would act in concert when it came to 9/11? If that's true, perhaps there is hope for a Palestinian state. I just can't understand why, if they're willing to collude together on a project of this magnitude, that they wouldn't be willing to work together for peace in their own region.
Explain.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
Arab islamic extremists??? are you kidding???
Mossad
I can make up enough documents to prove I am the easter bunny and you will believe it.They found arab passports on ground zero.(The flames were hot enough to melt steel)But hell those paper documents survived.The Same people that these documents supposidly proved they were on the plane and died (terroists)pop up alive all around the world HMMMM.Eight israel mossad agents dancing and filming while laughing as the twins burned (all back and safe in isreal now).Pre warnings ignored.Germans new that this was going to happen days before.Many people made a huge profit in futures trading (plot seems to thicken).And if you think that the uss cole was hit by arabs and if you think that we went to war in ww1 because the Nazi's sunk the lusitania,then I have some land just west of my Boca House you can buy.
Kevin
It was not Sharon, but Prince Bandhar who sat in on a high level BA meeting in the buildup to the Iraq War.
That's a fact.
Now, I don't know if someone has slipped something into your Wheaties, or not - but this conversation is going nowhere.
You have proven that the first moderator who banned you was correct in doing so.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
Scrubbing Bush's Remarks
I have always heard that when Bush makes a huge error in any interview that they scrub it to remove the snafu.
Yesterday I watched David Gregory interview Bush. He asked him about the "L" word. Bush said "oh you mean Laura" Gregory said "No, legacy" and Bush replied "Oh Well, I will be dead by then and it won't matter" something to that effect, in other words don't count on this president conductin himself with any class or constraint. He intends to rape this country until he gets what he wants and his fat cat contributors are paid back. Just like with the coronation, any other decent man would not have all of this lavish display during a time of war, but this guy could care less. He told the church clergymen in Austin he didn't know what it was like to be poor and he is showing now that he doesn't know what it is like to be a soldier, since he was AWOL. I don't care what happened at CBS, his military records do not lie and this man missed a physical. If he continues to swear that he served have him to do a fly by in one of those planes he said he flew. LIAR!
Then we saw the exact same interview in a repeat and that sentence was taken out. Amazing, we couldn't get over that.
I wish we could get the entire transcript. Is there anyone to get a copy of the original transcript, or did they scrub that too. Specifically when he asked Bush about the "L" word.
CBS News report on the interv
CBS News report on the interview:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/17/eveningnews/main667397.shtml
Spreading democracy at home?
"Oh, ah, I kind of, I think that uh, how about this? That George W Bush used the great influence of America to spread freedom at home and abroad."
WHAT?! does he even think before he opens his mouth or do the words just fall out on their own?
Proud member of the reality based community
poll on Israel
Fellow progressives:
What's your opinion on Israel:
Good/Bad for USA?
Good/bad for world(+mideast)?
Morally right/wrong?
Pimple
The State of Israel is nothing more than a pimple on the world's ass. As someone once said, I can't see starting World War III over that shitty little country.
First of all; if you are a tr
First of all; if you are a true Jew -- then you don't need to say more. --The reason(s) we're in deep crap in the Middle East is because Bush and Co love Jews; don't you get it. (its been a long term tradition with Israel and the U.S.) --As long as Sharon and Co are in the picture we have 'hate leverage'; and for the most part a 'true Jew' nowadays has created his/her mark of passage from the beginning of time; they wanted to be different and they did just that; create enterprise and create numerous types of infrastructure that made way for their own; (their own) is operative; because when Jews are in charge - no one else can be a part of 'it' anyway.
Therefore; you speak your mind with the Jewa mentality; no your not the 'superior race'; you just happen to be the most 'controversial'--saying this; respect our site (we're not racists) --we're just well informed and progressive.
Frankly, we don't care about Jews -- we care about Democracy, Equal Rights, the Bill of Rights, our Constitution...apparently you have no regard for our contributors on this site --BTW: your thoughts on 'conspiracies' ---since Bush and Co continue to run a 'partisan government' --we are here to make sure that they don't step out of bounds and ruin the rest of us ; who are a part of this country and its founding fathers --I don't know too many foreigners and/or others who really care about this country nor its roots. Therefore anyone who isn't a 'true blue American'..should go elsewhere.
I had a really good indignant
I had a really good indignant all worked up and ready to post, and then I thought better about it. I realized that there will always be intolerant, holier-than-thou, bigoted, irrational people who appear otherwise perfectly sane.
There must be a latent gene that pops up occasionally that cuts off the ability to separate the fly shit from the pepper: organized religion = fly shit; politics = pepper.
pcreenan is on his way back to freerepublic...
for a spelling lesson. Forget the rest...he just doesnt get it.
When they disagree they use spell check to discredit you
It is not anti-Semitic to criticize the policies of the state of Israel." -- Colin Powell
Well hi there pcreenan. Did s
Well hi there pcreenan. Did someone leave the door open again?
pcreenan You speak in such a
pcreenan You speak in such a hateful sense. I hardly believe that someone claiming to be open minded, liberal and progressive would stoop to hate-speach. You come off as being a conspiracy theory nutcase. No offense, its just the way it sounds. You think the holocaust is a fairy tale? You need to wake up and smell reality man. Oh and that land that the Jews "stole" was rightfully theirs for MANY centuries until they were conquered and removed by the ancestors of the modern day Palestinians. I believe they have a rightful claim to that land, just as the Palestinians do. They just need to work it out.
It was called Palestine not Israel
Israel was a UN mandated created country - in 1948 - not a historical one that was stolen from them.
The Jews were the leaders of the counrty known as Palestine, on and off, but people of all religions at the time lived together, just as the US is a melting pot made up of all 'peoples.'
Sure the creation of Islam helped seal the divide in the land known as Palestine, creating war and stealing as the way to go, leading to the Crusader wars.
But the UN creation of Israel was supposed to put an end to all that, with a legal dawing of borders, with Israel controlling this, and Palestinians controlling that.
The 1967 war nixed all that, with the Israelis resorting back to the strealing through war method. Israel are the ones who are guilty of occupying what is not theirs, and the Palestinians have a right to feel aggreived. The UN tried to put sanctions on Israel to force it back into the borders of Israel, but the US vetoed them, creating the divide between the followers of Islam and the US.
It is not anitsemetic to prononoce guilt when it is based on legal and moral facts.
Israel-american voters for Bush
Before the election I saw on the news that Israelis with dual citizenship were requesting absentee ballots in droves (historical) to vote for Bush. It was felt that Kerry would be more like Clinton was, in pushing for a peace agreement. Israelis prefer the wall instead. Will we be building a wall in Iraq??
You know what a great solutio
You know what a great solution would be for achieving peace in Israle/Palestine? Move EVERYONE out. Make it a U.N. historical preservation park (we have national parks in the US many times larger than Israel.) Then move all the Israeli people to one region of the world, and the Palistinian people to a different one. Thus no more war.
Oh, I wish it were so simple.
Oh, I wish it were so simple.
Jeez
I think someone off thier meds.
your right biggie, I will not
your right biggie, I will not respond to this topic again. oh wait... doh!