James Lovelock says we can't stop climate change
Lovelock has not arrived at his views lightly. They are the product of years spent carefully considering the known science through the revolutionary and frequently misunderstood lens he began developing 40 years ago while working at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasedena. Gaia Theory holds that Earth possesses a sophisticated planetary intelligence that responds to levels of heat from the sun in such a way as to maintain a climate homeostasis supportive of life. In four decades of research and experiment, the most famous being the “Daisyworld” model, Lovelock has overcome the once-widespread skepticism of his peers to officially move Gaia from a Hypothesis to a Theory. He has established that the various components of the biosphere -- plants, animals, minerals, gases, the sun’s heat -- interact in such a way as to create and maintain a climate amenable to life. Far from a passive collection of independent actors responding to conditions, the biosphere’s contents, including humans, form a living web which actively creates and maintains those conditions. Gaia prefers these conditions and will do her best to maintain them. But there is a limit to how much Gaia can do if we keep running over the safety mechanisms -- negative feedback loops -- she puts in our path. Lovelock believes that we have pushed Gaia beyond the point of return. The cold seas, for example, can only pump down so much of our carbon before they cry mercy and turn to acid.
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Interesting Di...
Will have to look this stuff up. With global warming, sufficient fresh water enters the oceans that the normal current global circulation is affected increasing the climate change that we are noting.
If one looks to what is already known, this circulation upset is the mechanism for bringing on the next ice age. According to history, we are about due for the next one.
We, collectively, may be in for a rough ride.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Thanks for posting this Di.
Thanks for posting this Di. With an impending reversal of the magnetic poles, and the threat of another massive asteroid stike, global warming seems to be the self-inflicted icing on our ecological cake.
Very true Bill
and let's not forget the recent finding that there is many many times more methane loosely trapped beneath the world oceans and trapped in the planetary ice, ice that is melting at a much faster rate than was previously thought. Meanwhile congress has postponed doing anything until after they come back from summer recess.
"Each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand mediocre minds appointed to guard the past.” - M. Maeterlinck
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." ~Orwell
A wildfire in the Sepulveda Pass yesterday had
firefighters concerned because of the close proximity to
a landfill, which contains methane gas trapped beneath
the surface.
So far, disaster has been averted.
There is good evidence that
There is good evidence that the Bermuda Triangle mystery is caused not by aliens or some kind of vortex, but by methane gas escaping from the ocean floor. It suffocates low flying propeller driven planes and can cause a vortex/hole in the ocean under a ship sucking the ship down. lol
"Each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand mediocre minds appointed to guard the past.” - M. Maeterlinck
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." ~Orwell
Damn!
That almost sounds believable.
:-)
New bits and pieces about global warming...
this item just showed up at DU this morning. It does produce a few new bits and pieces for those who are tracking this subject:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...
Almost all the new info coming out is not good. How bad it might be is yet to be discovered.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Is it warming or cooling?
How do we know who has the real answers and more important how will congress know?
Common sense tells me that cutting down hundreds of millions of acres of native trees in our most wild areas and replacing them with crops, cattle and oil rigs, will at some point become an over burden on the ecosystem. Where is that point, have we already reached it?
Thank you for posting this, Di.
And to think of the legions of RWingers who are adamantly proclaiming that
" there is no man made global warming" to this day!
Unfortunately, Dana Rohrabacher, my congress critter
is one of them.
:-(
Alternate Theory:
Of course with a razor thin atmosphere I'm not sure why folks are so cavalier in their treatment of it.