Here is what President Bush said today in his press conference. My source is CNN.com
Asked whether the support he received during the campaign from religious groups could alienate those who do not share his faith, Bush said that he had no plans to move America toward a theocracy.

"I'll be your president, regardless of your faith," he said. "No president should try to impose religion on our society."

He added, "If you're a Jew, a Christian, a Muslim, you're equally American. That's such a wonderful aspect of our society."

To come to think of it, Bush cannot be a "born again" president. To do that he'd have to admit his mistakes in Iraq, eradicate his tax policy and provide a healthy environment for women's rights to progress.

He has not and will not do any of these things so I guess its the same old Bush.

I can't believe Mr. Palast is saying Kerry won Ohio or that the election was rigged! Anyone who honestly thinks so should seek counseling! First off, his argument is about as weightless as the air Pam Andersons head, if you’re going to make some conspiracy theory at least come up with something better then lame math that does not add up. If you take a look at PA, you will see the margin between Bush and Kerry is smaller then it was in OH, with about the same number of voters. Every network but CNN called OH for Bush early on, CNN, and its liberal agenda, was holding out in hopes of some miracle. You can’t argue with a margin over 100,000 votes, you only make yourself foolish. I voted for Bush, bud had Kerry won, I would have supported him instead of posting hateful, conspiracy filled blogs on the internet. Believe it, there are a lot of people who support Bush and there are a lot of people who may not like Bush, but were scared of the thought of another weak president like Clinton. Please, get over it, don’t be sore at your loss, support Bush and lets move on.

Support Bush but don't trust him. I am not for war but when Colin powell warned my Congress that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (a term that seems to have gone to the wayside), I knew that something needed to be done about Sadam.

BUT COLIN POWELL LIED

I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt once and he lied. Hopefully he can redeem himself in the next four years. This is a hope that I will hold close to my heart because the welfare of the nation is more important than grudges against a liar who happens the leader of the free world.

I will have to say that I do trust President Bush. But for those who do not, like jmeyer, all you have to do is support him. If he lied to Americans and it can be proven, then I will lose all trust in him. So far, I have not seen facts to say that he or Powell lied and misled the Americans.
We do need unity right now, just like Bush and Kerry have said, we are all Americans, we are all patriotic, we must come together. We can disagree with issues but we can all agree that we are Americans

That question seems to be answering iteself. Check out everyone's info and you'll notice that most of the members of this forum joined today. We are doing what we should be doing and that is excercising our right to speak openly about the issues facing our country.

Typical. He couldn't get his cousin to mess up the vote in Florida again. That would be too suspect. So instead faulty voting machines (instead of good ole pen and paper) were used in Ohio and other states along with incompetence and perhaps some backhanded actions (ie: conspiracy/coup).

I'd like to point out that faulty voting machines where blamed four years ago too. Read this article about how ballots machines were blamed back then. And this article written at the same time relates very well today.

Many people will say that everything was done fairly and honestly but the fact is that one uncounted vote means an accident happened while over 200,000 uncounted votes in one state alone (not to mention all the other states where this happened) means something dishonest has happened. This needs to be addressed. If it's whitewashed and forgotten because of some new big confilct, then I hope most of the country responds in some way to bring the focus back to what is important.

I'm so sick of seeing dishonest in politics. I know crooked politician is almost redundant but I don't think it should be.

Here is a petition to examine ALL votes in close states: http://www.petitiononline.com/ab1c9876/petition.html

Hello My Fellow Democrats
As we have all learned from this last week's election, the Republicans and Democrats are strongly divided. Unsuprising, we have allowed yet another "close" election to just slide between our fingers. If we have learned from our recent history we would have known that the Republicans are dirty. This should not shock a lot of people seeming that the campaigns were run by Republicans who promote big business and great a lot of palms. I want one Republican to tell me that its not possible that they couldnt grease one palm in Florida to allow an array of flaws pass in our voting process.
1.) NO AUTHENTICATION PROCESS FOR LARGE AND CLOSE STATES, whats to pervent a 'Democratic poser' to assist a republican in voting for 'no-shows'! Isnt Florida a conflict of interests for the American people.
2.) INCONSISTENCIES IN THE VOTING PROCESS. I do not believe for once second those lines in OHIO in a college area was a mistake. I know that when I was in college with term papers, girls, beer and girls. I would not have waited 8 minutes, let alone 8 HOURS!!!!!!!!!!

Rebuplicans are out of touch mid-west inbreds that are easily persuaded and controlled by FEAR!!!! Most of all they are all thats bad in this country robbing the middle and lower class america from a decent living. OUR PEOPLE ARE SICK because there is no AFFORDABLE health care, especially in Democartic states. The margin of victory was so ridiculously close in some states taht I do not think it is a coincidence that this was a 'RECORD TURNOUT' election. BUSH has low people in high places and stole this election from the AMERICAN people! SHAME ON US!!!

D@n «

What are you talking about??? President Bush came out and said that we do not know all of the facts yet. He said that Kerry immediately claimed wrong doing right when the news came out about the missing weapons. He never claimed that Kerry lied. Get your facts straight and then talk..

Let's start a Progressive Party....
If you're too wimpy to fight for the rights of the nation, then you shouldn't be running.

I propose that we do away with the electoral college. In this day and age of technology and communication is the electoral college really needed? Or is it just a vehicle for corruption as each voter is blackmailed or bought to vote one way or the other?

I propose that from this point on all votes are taken on paper; that the votes are tallied immediately by people; and that those totals are sent immediately to a "voter central" where all the numbers are totaled together by human, calculator and computer. And only then, after ALL the votes are counted, do we declare a winner.

I propose that all votes have to be counted by a certain deadline in the entire country. Which means that all provisional ballots must be counted by this date and a winner cannot be declare until that date. It also means all "discarded ballots" must be either redone by the voter or must be given an interpretation by that date.

If all ballots are done on paper and pen or pencil with a definite deadline for all the voting to be done there is much less likelihood of computer program failure or uncounted ballots. Although I don't know about voting fraud.

Perhaps when voting is done this way we will get a fair and decent election.

That'll be the day.

5,000,000 divided by 26 = 192,307.6923~192,307.7
or 192,308 votes from each state shaved
would give Bush a win with 5M delta.

Subtract 2 states, Nevada(B) who has a paper
trail and Pennsylvania(K) with 24 states
possible for abuses, the number increases
208,333.3333~208,333 votes shaved per state
would give bush a win with 5M

Shave more in Florida than elsewhere.
If citizens in these e-voting states
do not demand printouts they will never
know if their votes were shaved.

He has been on the attack for a while.
How can the public make sure Bush is impeached?
Re-elect him, or let him get away with
shaving votes.

For the many people crying all over the world
that this man seems to have been re-elected
the true payback would be IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS
WITH A GUILTY VERDICT FOR HIS ENTIRE ENTOURAGE
THAT MISREPRESENTED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR THIS
WAR.

How it was possible in Ohio!!!

In 1992 & 1996 Ross Perot ran for President against Clinton. In 2000, Ralph Nader ran against Gore. In 1992, Ross Perot got 19% of the vote. In 1996, he got a smaller margin - 8.5%. In 2000 Nader for 2.7%. There are of course other candidates that run as well, and typically "the rest" poll 1%. In a "first past the post" system, you only need to have more votes than anyone else - not to have got a certain percentage as well. The 1992 case is obvious - if 20% of the electorate are voting for someone else you only need 41% of the vote in order to win.

Mark.

Here, there, everywhere, I see griping that Kerry won Ohio, Kerry won Florida. All over this site, and its counter-productive. We griped for the longest time about 200, when we knew we won the popular vote, and that Florida had only been decided by the supreme court.

This time, we know we lost the popular vote. Bush won by 3.5 million votes. Instead of making these pointless complaints--however true--a more useful activity would be to try to figure out WHY we lost, because we did lose--if not electorally then certainly by popular vote.

Regardless of who really won, the important thing for us to do is look to and work for the next election, rather than sit on our asses and moan about voting irregularities.