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The Eve Of WarUS / Iranian rhetoric is at fever pitch. Both sides are claiming to have “evidence” of military foul play. Both sides are holding military exercises in each others faces and the Gulf is so full of warships it must be highly dangerous to navigate. Both sides are threatening a massive military response to any use of force. Both presidents have backed themselves into political corners and neither shows the slightest sign of backing down. A second US carrier strike group has just arrived in the Gulf bringing the total number of US (and allied) warships there to about 50 and a third group, headed by USS Reagan has just been ordered to rendezvous in the Western Pacific with destroyers from Pearl Harbour before sailing to the Gulf. This is in addition to the large US and allied navies operating in the Eastern Mediterranean off the coast of Syria, purportedly to “keep the peace in Lebanon”, and the numerous military airbases that surround both Iran and Syria on multiple fronts. Not to mention the massive military base that is otherwise known as Israel. In just a few hours from now the 60-day deadline that the US forced through the United Nations in December, demanding Iran cease all nuclear enrichment and research will expire. The question is what will follow? Threats of yet more economic sanctions are unlikely to achieve anything. China has no reason to cut off their oil supply and Russia has nothing but contempt for Bush’s foreign policy. Even European countries are signing long term energy contracts with Iran. These dubious reports about Iranian weapons being used in Iraq (the ones conveniently labelled in English and dated using the Western calendar no less) seem to indicate that only a military solution is being considered and Bush is now desperate for his casus belli. If Iran tells the UN to shove it’s 60 day deadline and proceeds with nuclear enrichment then Bush will either have to back down and face international ridicule or force Iran to stop via military means. Today the Iranian president rejected the Western demands to cease nuclear enrichment unless the West also ceases nuclear enrichment, a reply that was laughingly dismissed in Washington. Even if the Bush administration lacks the nerve to launch an attack on Iran, the close proximity of so many ships, subs, aircraft and missiles all flexing their muscle is the perfect environment for accidents to happen, staged or otherwise. All the ingredients for a major conflict are in place, only a spark is required to set the whole region ablaze. Congress does have the power to block a new war with Iran. But congress has already given permission to the armed forces to bring stability to Iraq by any means (the so called ‘surge’) and now suddenly we have all this ‘evidence’ of Iranian activity in Iraq. A possible reason we are seeing this now is that they intend to exploit this congressional loophole and make Iran the reason for the disaster in Iraq and consequently deal with the Iranian 'problem' by any means necessary. The media seem to be pushing this idea already. Additional related articles: The March to War: Naval build-up in the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean.
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Airstrikes Could Be Another Set- Back
I am worried that we are setting up ourselves to fall
again this time in Iran. The Carriers are an impressive
show of strength. However, the problem is that the
nuclear production capabilities are underground and we do
not have bunker-buster bombs that can destroy these
facilities. Also, an airstrike would strengthen Ajmenijab
of Iran and set-back the REform Party that actually
gained seats in Parliament.
My opinion of this sort of strike is that...
Naval fighter/bomber strikes would keep the air clear of opposition air power. We do have bunker buster bombs...but they are generally delivered by C-130 aircraft--protected by the Naval fighter support. The C-130 aircraft could operate out of the finished 8-9 bases that we have operating in Iraq at this time.
A Naval expert, some months back(I forget the name of the individual), claimed that to be successful, at least 4 carrier battle groups would be necessary--five would be preferable.
It behooves us all to watch for the movements of all our carrier battle groups.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
More Marines to be sent out in October
My Marine second cousin will be sent to Persian Gulf in October. This will be his second time out to Iraq area. First time he was in one of the first groups taking Baghdad. Now his mom is saying she thought the war would be over by now and is unhappy to see him have to go again. He'll be on a Navy ship this time. It makes us wonder what they expect to happen by October of this year.
Look People, the only way to stop it is to
Get up off that thang and March for peace. It won't kll you and you probably need the exercise. What better way to support them than to, get up off your arse, and March in DC for a Unified, young, old, vet, non-vet, black white latino, asian,polish, irish, students, teachers, ministers, priest, and political activist for bringing our troops out of harms way. We need you all to speak out PHYSICALLY. We need you to let CONGRESS KNOW we are all against the war!
Make a date Grassroot Organizations, we are ready to take a stand for American Justice Today.
Do It, we remember the needs to stand up for our CIVIL RIGHTS.
DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS WITH COMMON SENSE, WE NEED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB NOW!
Please Lord Give The Congress The Balls To Stand Up For US.
Thank You Lord
Amen!
Naval Expert
Submarine USS Wahoo ss238
Did I hear my name being called???
Interview with Noam Chomsky on the current Middle East crisis
This is a must read, lots more at the link.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
As long as the Demcrastinators keep it off
the table the Regime will continue to reek havok on our childrens and troops lives. They need the fear of TYRONE in them. They can't possibly have God on their side, this isn't His way and we all know it. He is the punisher, not America, Vengeance is His, not George Bush and Dick "Brainy". Impeach now! Get that yellow stripe out your arse's and fight Democrats fight. Fight and earn your pay. Fight for the people who voted you in. I've heard the Republiklans say they don't care about the voters. Is this true of you too. You can't keep feeding us shit to shovel gleefully down our throats!
I love that term Democrastinator.
You can tell them if you do nothing, we will lobby the Republicans. Our Congress is covering his crimes. We have been playing nicey nice and soft ball. Let us play Hardball and Very Tough!! Tell them how useless and incompetent they are! DEMAND ACTION!!
YEAH!
Look democrastinators, no wonder you lost for twelve years, your playing by the rules. Since it's been so long that crooked money has flowed in and out of the House, real arse kickin has to be taught. We the American People know how to hit you where it hurts. We've had practice, being the punching bag of the rubber stamping, that's been going on too long. Get your, by the book arse moving on this impeachment, now!
Gulf of Tonkin, anyone?
Does this make sense?
The Straits of Hormuz are in international waters, to be sure, but all along one side there is the Iranian coast. So, it is natural that Iran would have war games there, as we have along our own coasts. Admiral Walsh is concerned about possible accidental confrontations with Iran there, so what does the US Navy do about it?
Reduce forces there, to reduce the likelihood of accidental confrontations?
No. The US brings in another carrier group, and a third on its way--increasing the risk of confrontation, obviously.
Somehow, the US government claims that we are keeping the peace, and Iran is bent on disrupting it!
Tonkin Gulf II is in the making, folks!
Note: I knew the guy who falsified the Tonkin Gulf. The legal issue involved was whether the US warship attacked was in international waters, which would have made it an act of aggression by North Vietnam; it wasn't; it was in North Vietnam's waters, making it an aggressive act by the US, which was met by North Vietnam's defensive action. However, my wife's uncle, top legal in State, certified that the ship was in international waters, thereby giving Johnson the legal basis for saying North Vietnam had attacked the US.
Is it gonna happen again?
Douglas C. Smyth
http:www.roman-empire-america-now.com
"accidents" do happen
It looks very likely that this could happen. The sheer volume of shipping, with Iranian fast patrol craft and US picket Frigates amongst a swarm of oil tankers is an accident waiting to happen. Even with modern radar and sonar, many confused and misleading contacts are detected, even worse at night with no visual horizon. This leads to frequent false alarms, especially in a situation where crew have been at general quarters for a prolonged period and stress levels are high.
Likewise the narrow waters of the Straight of Hormuz and the shallow noise polluted sea are nightmarishly difficult to track submerged contacts, Iran may only have a handful of diesel attack subs but they would be extremely effective in this environment. There is also a great deal of air traffic in this region, and it would not be the first time a passenger jet was "accidently" shot down over the Gulf.
Very interesting to hear your info on the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
When one starts to look for these 'incidents' that spark wars, one finds a great deal of 'oddities' in the historical records. Not many of the current generation remember much of WWI beyond grainy black and white photos of soldiers in trenches wearing gas masks. But one of the primary motivators for America becoming involved in that terrible war was the sinking of the Lucitania by a German submarine. It's worth reading about if you are unfamiliar with it.
There are also some uncomfortable flaws in the official story concerning the attack on Pearl Harbour by the Japanese.
Few of these events have much in the way of evidence to support the "official" claims but they are none the less used to manipulate public opinion in a very dangerous way.
The USS Liberty is a particularly blunt example of 'RealPolitik' in action.
The last 6 years have been filled with 'terrorist attrocities' justifying wars and sanctions, but it becomes harder to take the claims seriously, especially where billions of barrels of oil are concerned. But that is too big a topic to discuss here.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
Russia warns U.S. on Iran moves
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
My God what the H e doublle hockey stricks is this Congress doin
This "lame duck CONGRESS, for the people's Justice" sucks. It just burns me up, how quick we can get locked up in the name of justice while this gang of thieves just marches on brazenly, stepping on the people's message, like we didn't vote for change. They never respected our voting system anyway, the way they tampered with the electronic machines.
George Bush is giving the loser Republi Klan congress, more courage to disobey the people because nothing is being done. That's Karl Rove's plan, to ignore the voices of America as if they are so far above us meek, their ears won't strain that far to hear US.
Put some US foot up this ad men-truation, that is BLEEDING US DRY ANY MAKING US VULNERABLE TO ATTACK!!!!!
Period.
AHHHHH!!!!
George Galloway warns of the war with Iran
Continued at link.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
The Democrastinators are moving too slow... with beauracratic
Bushit, running rampant. They must move now, the calvary must move in and fire, not sit there primping and posturing the polite war to say Enough is Enough, and order a firm mental evaluation of President Select George Walker get us into another war without permission Bush. And Cheney greed is worse than his thirst for blood, anybody's blood, including our troops. We need Pow Wow sessions for action, if you know what I mean. Darn, my house is always full of children requiring my attention in other ways. I may have to give this a second thought about my time and the priorities involved.
What a choice. Get back to me with something like the No more Bush It, Impeach Now March. Just for congress and Let them know: If they don't know what to do with it on behalf of the people, we will make sure they know how, in the next election.
People in the days of the bible, when the people were in tieranny, they rose up and kicked the crooks to the curve in the name of Jesus. the people of the United States have arrived at that time. We have watched it on television in other countries for centuries that the people will not be ignored, while our tax dollars are supporting a illegal blood bath, in the name Dick Cheney and George Bush.
Rise up and group together in a Pow Wow for Peace Rally on the White House Mall for April's Good Friday and turn out in all ages, colors, shapes and forms for a message after the November 2006 election, that we are not pleased with congress's progress in the non-binding way, and will just like Bush proceed to remove the cowards out the House that will not work for Justice and Peace.
It's all part of a cleaning process right. In the world of terrorism, the people cannot "Afford" to have a hard headed congress as well as a President. We elected you, He was Selected. You have the People's blessing and yet you procrastinate on a swift moving justice in apprehending these War Profiteers, killing our children serving in the Middle East, NEEDLESSLY and might I add RECKLESSLY, while Osama Bin Laden gets more and more time to complete some major attack.
Do Your Job Congress, Do Your JOB!!!
No one is above the law, even this administration.
My God, Bush's list of treason just gets longer and longer
We could throw them under the jail by September for charges if we put the March for Congress on in DC. To give them the newer message. We can't wait for another election to stop this TRAINWRECK of a President from setting the Nucular War (as he puts it) into action.
Take away his military toy generals and tell him to take a nap, he's tired.
This guy is bananas, as we say in Joisey.
Captain Ahab, to the fullest, and his Moby
Dick is Iran and the Middle East Oil Regions under their Oppressive foot.
The rhetoric they spew is taking the public's mind off how much we are being oppressed right unDer our noses for the next ten generations.
IMPEACH NOW DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, DON'T WAIT FOR THIS FOOL TO START A MUSHROOM CLOUD FOR PRIDE.
The Bush list of impeachable acts gets longer
Add treason to set up his own world government negating our Constitution and borders.
See the post about Condi Rice, Chernoff being in Canada meeting with them about the Americas Union. It's not just about security (or they'd keep illegals out), or about trade (because we lose there too), or about dipolmacy. It's about Fascist rule by the few.
"We the people" decide on our borders, government,and trade...not the President's illegal, incompetent government cabinet members.
The security of our country is best protected by removing them not going after "terrorists" who don't exist except by their own making.
We faught and died for these borders, not
the Bush's. They sold weapons to Hitler against the allies in the war. They are known for war profiteering and underhanded, treasonist acts throughout US history.
Blood money. Blood for Oil. Blood for Facism.
I got a bone to pick about that too
We are independent of other nations and will not join in the Millenium Low Wage Slave Trade where immigrants are dying on a promise of illegal entry. The hidden pop up in and out of our communities at times. Most we meet two or three days, before being replaced by the illegals. Or employers will hire them during the weekend, and you get a pink or white layoff slip on Monday.
Yeah, we know what it's like to have a preference over you that is unfair.
dee, dee, dee, people put this guy in there over a beer at a nashcar season. dee.dee, dee.
And now
add China to the list of the global war involvement. I can see all the big war powers joining forces against US. It is not us the American people that even want nor desire it to happen. Right now as I sit here there is a million songs that I need to write and send to congress.
I can only use email because of my hearing impairment. I sent one to the shithead at the white house. And I am going to keep it up.
We have been threatening the congress republiklans too long
It is time to launch our major weapon of peaceful choice that proves to the White House, the American People Want Change! It will work as with the election when we were able to count our votes.
Look out Republicans, we will show you what Democracy looks like.
People of America no more threats that go unheard in the house of both parties in power. We've got to unleash our Dragon. "THE BLUE TSUNAMI FORCE AT THE WOODSTOCK FOR PEACE MARCH"
We need a Wave for Justice and Impeachment of this War profiteering President.
We as Americans have seen hoow you leave us in disasterous conditions. We can't trust YOUR intelligence in maters of country and state.
We find YOU GEORGE BUSH AND RICHARD CHENEY unfit for OFFICE and want BOTH of your resignations or IMPEACHMENT WILL BE INTRODUCED THE FOLLOWING DAY.
Egads people, this nut is going to kill us all, when his mercernaries contract on America is filled.
I wouldn't put it past them because they listen only to the neo-cons now, and they want wars in every country, that will pay for weaponry.
Do something now. MARCH ON DC MARCH ON DC! SHOW YOUR GORGEOUS SUPPORT FOR JUSTICE OF IMPEACHMENT.
Blue Tsunammi For Peace!! Be There. And don't forget to where the color blue that day we meet. Blue for the true patriotic members and citizens of our country.
Did you listen to Min Louis Farrakhan's farewell to
On C-Span last night, Minister Louis Farrakhan delivered the millenium speech for Peace in the spirit of Black History Month. The spirits of Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Garvey and all other black leaders that have gone before him, that have spoken truth to power, flowed freely to the American public in the name of truth, to our people with God's words from both the K'oran and Bible. People do you know by time you catch on to all that you have been hoodwinked on, (gathering of further evidence)the list being as long as it is will make the actions of the American public too late to stop this death train on course of destruction for the corporate and neo-con coffers.
Wake Up America, that was the Final Call!
US generals ‘will quit’ if Bush orders Iran attack
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
Israel seeks all clear for Iran air strike
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
If Isreal still wants to stir up hornets nest in the middle East
let them fight their own beef. They might not be so quick tempered next time, the peace offerings are on the table. Even Isreal must get humble, before God's wrath towards apartheid tactics, practiced toward the citizens Palestine.
Think Peaceful Resolution Isreal, not expansions in taking other's birth lands.
Kim Jones: The people in the region want Peace Now!
The USA makes huges profits as long as wars continue. Military Industrial Complex is profitable. Tensions in that region rise the price of oil. Oil Companies make huge profits when Israel is at war. They are 100% opposed to peace. They need war to bring profits. Price Fixing. They did this with Katrina.
Cheney arrives in Persian Gulf for talks
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
Iran launches 1st space satellite
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
Space satellite
Iran launches space satellite? Why wouldn't they want communication ability for the area?
We should be helping them set up solar and wind power so they don't have to go nuclear like the rest of the world.
Again I ask why can't they have what Israel and the rest of the world has with oversight? Are we looking into/monitoring Israel's nuclear facilities and weapons?
No go for Israel to attack any nuclear facilities. The pilot died in the Columbia who bombed Iraq's so called nuclear facilities. Nuclear radiation go anywhere after bombing the nuclear plant in Iraq? Aren't they poluting their own?
No go Israel with my tax dollars or support to bomb any nuke plant, etc. I want the UN to make sure it stays peaceful.
Must be getting pretty crowded up there with so many missles, space launches,etc. We should be sending up removal crews for old failed ones which may fall out of the sky on our heads. My x-Air Force brother used to monitor all of it from the under ground mountain in CO.
Peace and prosperity is just that. Unending wars could be the end of us.
UK doubles naval presence in Persian Gulf
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
What are the Congressmen and Seators
wating for?
Have no fear the Prince of Peace is Here
Yep! Our directly chosen by god president is on a peace mission right now! As a matter of fact he is knocking down two birds with one stone. Muscle Israel to a forced peace that cannot last and get some really great photo opps like the victory ones a few years ago, before he leaves office. Then he can hang all of the pics in his solid gold library down there smu (aristocrat u). But wait that's not all; He's gonna boost the economy by selling 70 billion plus in arms deals. Maybe we can look forward to the next terrorists at least in the photo opps or maybe even commercials about weapons with the good old made in the usa stickers on them. Everything else comes from china now. So are we becoming arms dealers, guns for hire, and some say even some drug running (iran contra). Wow! Is this country the new mob? We even got our pres as the # one arms salesman. That oughta get some serious plaques and vacation time. Yep no worries now! Way to stand up and be counted reps! But then I guess if the people are not gonna hold you accountable you just think you can do what ever you want eh.......