Karl Rove Announces Plans to Steal Election
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By David Swanson
White House political head honcho Karl Rove was interviewed by National Public Radio yesterday. He effectively announced plans to steal the coming elections. The polls point decisively to a Democratic majority in the House, and possibly in the Senate. Yet Rove told NPR he was certain of Republican majorities in both houses, and gave laughable reasons for his claim. Rove had no actual evidence to point to.
Now, this could be seen as the obsessive lying of a political hack, were it not for the fact that Rove's party has stolen elections in 2000, 2002, and 2004, has recently increased dramatically the opportunities for election fraud (with new machines, new ID requirements, new purging techniques), and has already begun dirty tricks in a number of states (including machine foul ups already in Maryland, Virginia, Texas, Illinois, and the U.S. military). Rove's strategy is clearly to steal the elections and to put forth a paper-thin excuse to justify it, one he hopes the corporate media will (again) accept. How do we know that's Rove's strategy? Because he announced it yesterday on NPR. Here's the transcript:
MR. SIEGEL OF NPR: We're in the home stretch, though. And many might consider you on the optimistic end of realism about --
MR. ROVE: Not that you would be exhibiting a bias or anything like that. You're just making a comment.
MR. SIEGEL: I'm looking at all the same polls that you're looking at every day.
MR. ROVE: No you're not. No you're not!
MR. SIEGEL: No, I'm not --
MR. ROVE: I'm looking at 68 polls a week. You may be looking at four or five public polls a week that talk about attitudes nationally, but that do not impact the outcome –
[Rove is claiming access to secret polls that he never cites any data from, indicates the origin of, or otherwise documents the existence of. When asked for examples of races Republicans are winning, Rove turns to races we all know they're winning based on "public" polls. Needless to say, thousands of public polls report on individual races, not just "attitudes nationally".]
MR. SIEGEL: -- name races between -- certainly Senate race
MR. ROVE: Well, like the polls today showing that Corker's ahead in Tennessee; or the race -- polls showing that Allen is pulling away in the Virginia Senate race.
[Yes, we knew about those, Karl. But those still leave the Republicans losing the House and possibly even the Senate.]
MR. SIEGEL: Leading Webb in Virginia. Yes.
MR. ROVE: Yeah, exactly.
MR. SIEGEL: Have you seen the DeWine race and the Santorum race and -- I don't want to –
[You don't want to what, point out that Karl is lying by listing more of the races where the Democratic Senatorial candidates lead in the polls? Now watch how Karl responds…]
MR. ROVE: Yeah. Look, I'm looking at all these Robert and adding them up. And I add up to a Republican Senate and a Republican House. You may end up with a different math, but you're entitled to your math. I'm entitled to "the" math.
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Rove probably meant to say something coherent, such as "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own math." He probably couldn't manage to come out with that simple statement because his attention was focused on blatantly lying his ass off. If he had evidence that the Republicans are ahead in polls, he would reveal it. What reason could he possibly have not to? He knows that whoever is leading can often be helped to a larger lead by simply announcing that fact. He's on the air precisely to claim that Republicans are leading. Yet he has no evidence.
Democratic candidates, consider yourselves warned. Don't concede a shady election the next day and then complain weeks later that you didn't realize, you hadn't been aware, or you didn't want to put us through a traumatic experience. Our uncertainty as to whether you will fight for your votes is what is traumatizing us.
Citizens, consider yourselves warned. Go to http://www.mydem.com and prepare yourselves to make sure the votes are counted. Then join a blue revolution: candlelight vigils outside county election offices the evening of November 7th – Let them know we're watching: http://www.bluerevolution.us
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rove
in the 80s there has been a political coup here in my home town. it was a TV network which found out about Jane pauley and me. They now have a Tv show every night called Rove McManus, that's a 30s UK communist party leaders name, and they plagiarise me all the time and make me want to become an advocate for some mental health group run by a Balkand spyshyiatrist who is named Radovan Carrot, or something. I object most strenuously. But I can submit. Sharia law was introduced here too, using volunteer judges, inside the govt tv studio some 20 years ago also.
http://www.heatherjeane.com
I am feeling terrible. Lost 2 stone.
I am the actual fellow who did the actual real Greening of America, because someone named Reich passed away on my birthday 1962, May Reich aged over 80 years.
When I wartched Rove say.......
....."the math," I wondered if he meant Diebold's math.
- Surviving Bush one day at a time.
tomcatsbox.spaces.live.com
Chills went down my spine when he said 'THE MATH'
The quote of 'it's who count the votes', that determines the outsome of elections. If the math is skewed, then so is the count. He could not have been more clear in his psychotic way in telling you what is about to happen. There will be such an uprising by the Klansmen if the elections are Democratic, with 'stolen elections'. A theif, knows the game, and it has been perfected, they have had 8 years to do so without reprisal. The workings of these type of people are lethal, deadly and dangerous. Rove, Cheney, Bush and Rummy are criminals and WE, the People, do not realize what danger we are about to witness this election. The Brown Shirts are in place to prohibit any protest, the laws are in place to incarcerate and torture the enemy, and if we protest, We, the people are the enemy.
You see, desparate psychos, perform desparate acts, when they are threated, and the laws are on their demented side, because they changed the laws. Like they changed the game, when Tiger beat them at their game. We are in the THROES of Dictatorship, and Fascism... The fat pig is back in his game, when Fitzgerald, didn't get him. His suit is again tight, he is in full swing... Why do you suppose the laws have been changed, why do you think, he (Rove) has proteges, why do you imagine they are claiming victory already. These are power driven, despots, who have been ALLOWED to lie, cheat and steal their way into power. Do you think for one minute they will relinquish that power without sh** in the game?
Worse part is, We, the People, ALLLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN.
When 2+2 makes 5, dictators' seeds thrive.....
When I read about Rove and HIS math, it reminds me of this phrase "2+2 makes 5" and the use of it in 1984.
All about Truth, I hate to say your picture looks right to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_plus_two_make_five
"Its common use originates from its inclusion in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four (Part Three, Chapter Two), where it is contrasted with the true, mathematical phrase "two plus two make four." Orwell's protagonist, Winston Smith, uses the phrase to wonder if the State might declare "two plus two makes five" as a fact; he ponders that, if everybody believes in it, does that make it true? Smith writes, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." Later in the novel, Smith attempts to use doublethink to teach himself that the statement "2 + 2 = 5" is true, or at least as true as any other answer one could come up with."
(...)
"Orwell
Orwell had used the concept before publishing 1984. During his employment at the BBC, he became familiar with the methods of Nazi propaganda. In his essay Looking Back on the Spanish War, published 4 years before 1984, Orwell wrote:
Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as "the truth" exists. […] The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, "It never happened"—well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five—well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs […]
In the view of most of Orwell's biographers, the main source for this was Assignment in Utopia by Eugene Lyons, an account of his time in the Soviet Union. This contains a chapter "2+2=5", which was a slogan used by Stalin's government to predict that the Five year plan would be completed in four years, which for a time appeared widely in Moscow.
However, Orwell may also have been influenced by Nazi Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring, who once, in a debatably hyperbolic display of loyalty to Adolf Hitler, declared, "If the Führer wants it, two and two make five!"
"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifiying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable—what then?"
Exit Polls
In the past elections of 2000, 2002, & 2004 the exit polls always showed in favor of the Democrats, but when the counts came in the Republicans were always out in front. There's no better poll than an exit poll. You know the people voted, and they have no reason to lie. Exit polls have worked for decades to predict election outcomes on election day. Since Karl Rove reinvented math six years ago, these polls are no longer reliable.
I can't believe my eyes to
I can't believe my eyes to see that the American people are still in a position to have their elections stolen!!!
I just came across an article in the French press today (Le Monde to name it) mentioning how one American woman (Beverly Harris and her Blackboxvoting) had been fighting against the voting machines since 2002; the type of fight that attracts readers who suddenly believe individuals like themselves are able to stand up to gigantic forces.
Stange how the media prefers to focus on individuals rather than organized groups. It probably sells better.
Since I happen to have visited this website quite a lot in the aftermath of the presidential elections, I know she has not been the only one to fight. It's still very worrying to think nothing has been possible to make sure this crime against democracy and the will of the American people doesn't happen once more.
This looks very interesting.
It's an HBO documentary,
Hacking Democracy
airing November 2, 2006.
http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/hackingdemocracy/index.html
I plan on watching it.
Voteing Scam
You think it can't be done ? Call DIRECT TV CO. and ask them how much money (TONS) they lost on their ACCESS CARDS that went into their equip. I say a man put the program on one of the cards it took less then 45 seconds. The cards they use for voteing now..... and this is not funny but look just like the ones we had for for the DSS CARDS lots of luck....
REMBR_911
Silvie, some of us appreciate your concern...
It has been a terrible 6 years for this country. We used to try, sometimes successfully, sometimes not, but we did try to make the world a better place for all.
No more. Now we appear to be working to make a very few richer and let all the rest go hang.
Perhaps, with this election, we will finally get a handle of control over our destiny, If it is not already too late.
That is what worries many of us now...that it is already too late.
Thanks for thinking of us during our times of trouble.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
I 've just turned back to see who you were thanking but as I see
no other Sylvie around, I guess it was me? I didn't know I had mentioned my first name on this website, but maybe I have.
(If not, Big Brother?)
If it is aimed at me, thank you for your kind words, I reallyappreciate them (if it is not, take me for a vain fool.)
As I have just said in the previous post, I think it is a great concern for the whole world, we are all on the same spaceship.
I do hope it is not too late. And even if one thing is too late, others will still be in time.
"If you want to build a ship, don't herd people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea."Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Sylvie, a very nice quotation...
I am one of the 'moderators' on the site. Were you ever on our old site?
As you say, noting ever stops. The great wheel of life continues to turn. We don't live long enough to see changes sometimes...but they will always occur--whether we wish them to or not.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
When I visited this site right around the presidential elections
two years ago I used the name "flawedfreedomfry", as some Americans wanted to punish the French by renaming the famous "French fries". :=))
P.S I've just noticed how early it was overthere.
To those who are in the process of opening the other eye, (the second, eventually the third) have a nice day.
:=))
Flawed Freedom Fry...yes, I remember the name...
I am just getting ready to go to work...a little job, I am a retired symphony/opera musician--Cor.
It was very pleasant chatting with you again.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
Very pleasant for me too.
Very pleasant for me too. Have a great day, Grinch.
Not at all flawed
I remember my thinking during those days when our warmongers were frothing at the mouth, and almost everyone I knew was calling me a traitor, because I said that I did not believe Bush and that, if we invaded Iraq without more international support than our laughable coalition of the Bush-bribed, we would get bogged down in a guerrilla war for years. Our warmongers kept ranting about how France was betraying us after we saved their country in WWII. I remembered that, were it not for France, our nation would not even exist. Thank you, albeit belatedly.
- Surviving Bush one day at a time.
politicsplus.blogspot.com
My poll tax
It cost me $5.00+ to cast my vote this year; I guess you could call it a "poll tax" : I spent that much to mail my absentee ballot, certified mail, return receipt requested. Still, I can't be sure that my vote will be counted in a legal fashion nor that it has a traceable paper trail.
I scrutinized my Florida absentee ballot from top to bottom for marks that might make it identifiable. Sad to say, I found no numbers, no bar codes, no embossing, NOTHING to prevent that ballot's being shredded or thrown out in the trash.
What amazes me is that so little concern over voting fraud has been shown in the past two years. Now it's less than 2 weeks before the election and it's the SOS.
"What amazes me is that so
"What amazes me is that so little concern over voting fraud has been shown in the past two years. Now it's less than 2 weeks before the election and it's the SOS." Pippilin
THAT amazes me too!
I see it as one of the worst things happening not only ot the States but to the world itself today, worse than overt dictatorship; for who in the world is going to join you to free your country from that, when it has the apppearance of democracy AND the strongest army power ever accumulated on earth, the rest of the world is actually being kidnapped by a real gang of mafiosi, when you only consider what one of the gang is able to utter:
"In an interview, Mr Cheney agreed that "a dunk in the water" for terrorism suspects during questioning in order to save American lives was a "no-brainer"." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6093298.stm
The gang that owns our government is not going to...
allow any changes in our election process. Despite over 6 years of massive effort on the internet, many states are using procedures and machines that are essentially owned by the gang of thieves running our country.
Anything can and may happen in the next week or so. During the very early days of WWII, a couple of British commentators made much use of the term "The Little Tramp." This was in reference to Hitler of course, as characterized by Charlie Chaplin in his movie of those times.
I frequently refer to "The Little Tramp" in his attempts to take over world domination. That is his dream...and the dream of those who work with and support him. Not so different from your experience many years ago.
Many of us here believe that it is 'time for the Tumbrils' again. We may, as Americans, not always be in agreement with France...but we do also remember that it was the presence of your fleet that gave us our independence.
We have hopes that this situation can be solved peacefully. I am not so certain that it can.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
How to hack a Diebold voting machine
"Researchers from Princeton demonstrate how one could hack a Diebold machine and alter the election results, with an undetectable software that can also spread like a virus:"
http://padawan.info/it/how_to_hack_a_diebold_voting_machine.html
too cocksure
I too heard thought Rove's comments were incriminating. Add to this David Green's paraphrase of White House spokeswoman Dana Perino's comments: that the Republicans will win no matter what the polls say!
We are being set-up for another stolen election.