Joe Scarborough Equates Bill Moyers With Glenn Beck

On September 20, Joe Scarborough went on a Twitter rampage against Bill Moyers. (All of these tweets were written by Scarborough, some addressed directly to @individuals).

Sun 6pm

I just saw the one of the most unintentionally funny interviews in the history of mankind!! Bill Moyers interviewing the NYTs Sam Tannehaus.

Moyers--who frantically predicted the rise of a theocratic state over the past 8 years--suddenly concerned about GOP's apocalyptic thinking.

The Frantic Bill Moyers: "For the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington."

When challenged, Scarborough went ballistic.

@probert06 I saw the damn interview. The Bush GOP lost me as well but I sure as hell don't need to be lectured by Bill Moyers.

@probert06 Moyers has always foamed at the mouth the second his party got voted out of power. Glenn Beck, meet Bill Moyers. Your soul mate.

Monday 6 am:

@whisper1111 Moyers a real journalist? That may be the funniest thing I've heard since Will Farrell showed up in "Wedding Crashers."

@adrianinflorida Who thinks Beck is real journalism? He's just as biased on the Right as Moyers is on the Left. Just preaching to the choir.

@Karoli Dear Disgusted Christian, instead of being as reckless as Moyers, look up the definition of "theocracy." Good Lord. The shrillness.

@rfbarnes They are both blinded by ideology. Moyers plays to the hard Left and Beck to the hard Right. Neither are objective. Not close.

@billieraven You have to ask if Glenn Beck is real journalism? Poor thing. He is not. Not even close. Reminds me of Bill Moyers.

@schwanderer Hollywood gave Moyers 30 Emmys? That proves he's not biased on the Left! Please. He's frantic when his party is out of power.

Bill Moyers is as biased as any talking head in TV Land. Anyone who doesn't see that is far left of center politically. It is not debatable.

But at least on Morning Joe, we don't accuse Democrats of being racists (Beck) or Republicans of launching theocracies (Moyers).

Of course, comparing Moyers and Beck is despicable. In a brilliant career in journalism, Bill Moyers has won countless awards:

Recipient of the 2006 Lifetime Emmy Award, "Bill Moyers has devoted his lifetime to the exploration of the major issues and ideas of our time and our country, giving television viewers an informed perspective on political and societal concerns," according to the official announcement, which also noted, "the scope of and quality of his broadcasts have been honored time and again. It is fitting that the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences honor him with our highest honor – the Lifetime Achievement Award."

He has received well over thirty Emmys and virtually every other major television-journalism prize, including a gold baton from the Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Awards, a lifetime Peabody Award, and a George Polk Career Award (his third George Polk Award) for contributions to journalistic integrity and investigative reporting. He is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Letters and has been the recipient of numerous honorary degrees, including a doctorate from the American Film Institute.

How many awards has Glenn Beck won? The 2008 Marconi Award for Network Syndicated Personality. In the four years of the award, the previous winners were Sean Hannity, Bob & Tom, and Rush Limbaugh. Now there's a distinguished award!

Joe Scarborough's contempt for Bill Moyers is itself contemptible, and he needs to be called out. Of course it's hard to argue with Scarborough because he blocks the Twitter accounts of anyone who challenges him. But if enough of us challenge him, he may have to respond.

And let's also demand to know if his colleagues and guests agree. Here's a simple question:

Do you agree with @joenbc that Bill Moyers is Glenn Beck's "soul mate," "reckless," "blinded by ideology"? http://tr.im/zj8j

Post your exchanges in the comments below.

Joe Scarborough @joenbc Glenn Beck's "soul mate," "biased," "reckless," "shrill," "blinded by ideology," "foaming at the mouth."
Mika Brzenzski @morningmika  
Mike Barnicle (too cowardly to engage thinking viewers)  
Willie Geist @williegeist1  
NBC regulars    
Maria Bartiromo @mariabartiromo  
Erin Burnett @erinburnett  
Ann Curry @anncurry  
David Gregory @davidgregory  
Savannah Guthrie @SavannahGuthrie  
Mark Haines    
Chris Matthews @MSNBC_CMatthews  
Andrea Mitchell    
Norah O'Donnell @norahodonnell  
Dylan Ratigan @DylanMSNBC  
Chuck Todd @chucktpolitical  

And what do Scarborough's guests think? (Please search for their Twitter accounts and add them in comments below.)

Andrew Ross Sorkin    
Andy Serwer    
Austan Goolsbee    
Carole King    
Chris Mooney    
Cris Collinsworth    
Dan Rather    
Dan Senor    
David Sanger    
Dee Dee Myers    
Elizabeth Warren    
Eugene Robinson    
Frank Bruni    
Gabe Sherman    
Gail Collins    
Gov. Tim Pawlenty    
Gretchen Morgenson    
Harold Ford Jr.    
Jeremy Scahill @jeremyscahill

that may be one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard & i've been on both moyers and morning joe.

PS Moyers has most extensive fact-check process of any show--hands down. Glenn Beck hasn't met a fact he recognized.

Jim VandeHei    
John Burns    
Jonathan Capehart    
Joseph Sebarenzi    
Karen Donfried    
Katrina vanden Heuvel @katrinanation If Joe S compared Moyers & Beck, he has lost his moral, political and other compasses. Moyers is man of integrity, a true Tom Paine.
Moyers is man of principle. Beck is a charlatan and a huckster and a man without a compass.
Lauren Weber    
Lawrence O'Donnell    
Matt Bai    
Matt Frei    
Maureen Orth    
Max Blumenthal    
Mayor Gavin Newsom    
Michael Crowley    
Mike Allen @mikeallen  
Pat Buchanan @patrickbuchanan  
Patrick Gavin    
Peggy Noonan    
Pete Hamill    
Peter Schiff    
PM Tony Blair    
Rand Paul    
Rep. Jane Harman    
Rep. Mike Pence @RepMikePence  
Richard Stengel    
Robert Reich    
Robert Wright    
Romesh Ratnesar    
Ron Brownstein    
Sen Barbara Boxer @barbara_boxer  
Sen Claire McCaskill @clairecmc  
Sen Debbie Stabenow    
Sen Dick Durbin @DickDurbin  
Sen Evan Bayh    
Sen John Barrasso    
Sen Judd Gregg    
Sen Richard Shelby    
Sen Tom Coburn @TomCoburn  
Sheri Fink    
Steven Hayward    
Tina Brown    
Todd Purdum    
Tom Brokaw    
Tom Ridge    
Vicky Ward    
Zbigniew Brzezinski    

Beck=Journalism... LOL, REALLY!!!???

The premis that Beck & Bill Moyers even be mentioned in the same breath is offensive! To call Beck a "journalist" should be a criminal offense punishable by something.... What twisted logic by Joe S. And the fact that Mika Brzezinski sits there and laughs makes me sick. i used to feel a certain amount of sympathy for her when Mr. better than thou would make fun of her being on anti-depressants and foolish things like that, now i fell no pity for her, she seems to like the daily abuse... Sad, very sad...

Moyers' experience and character are in a diff universe from Bec

When Bill Moyers was LBJ's press secretary, Johnson asked him to open a press conference with a prayer. Moyers, who had degrees in both journalism and divinity and saw the request for the political opportunism it was, agreed, but bowed his head silently instead of leading an invocation. After a few seconds of silence, LBJ prompted, "Bill, I can't hear you." Moyers answered without raising his head, "I wasn't talking to you, sir."

That's talking back to power, it's intellectual honesty, it's hewing to truth. Beck can't compare. As to whether they're journalistic equivalents, compare their educations and experience:

Glenn Beck: Beck was admitted to a special program for non-traditional students at Yale University while he was working for a New Haven-area radio station, having received at least one of his recommendations from Senator Joe Lieberman. During this time Beck took a single theology class, dropping out around the time of his divorce.

That's it.

Bill Moyers: He began his journalism career at the age of sixteen as a cub reporter at the Marshall News Messenger in Marshall, Texas. Moyers studied journalism at the University of North Texas, Denton, Texas. In 1954, he worked as a summer intern for then-U.S. Senator Lyndon B. Johnson, eventually being in charge of Johnson's personal mail before his internship was finished. Moyers soon transferred to the University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas, where he wrote for The Daily Texan newspaper and graduated in 1956 with a Bachelor of Arts in journalism. While in Austin, Moyers worked as an assistant to the news editor for KTBC radio and television stations, owned by Lady Bird Johnson, wife of then-U.S. Senator Johnson. During the academic year 1956–1957 he studied at the University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom, as a Rotary International Fellow. In 1959, he received a Bachelor of Divinity degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Fort Worth, Texas.[1]

He was ordained two years later after working as a minister. Moyers planned to enter a Doctor of Philosophy program with the University of Texas System and briefly accepted a lectureship in Christian ethics at Baylor University, Waco, Texas. During then-U.S. Senator Johnson's unsuccessful bid for the 1960 Democratic U.S. presidential nomination, Moyers served as a top aide, and in the general campaign he acted as liaison between Democratic vice-presidential candidate Johnson and the Democratic presidential nominee, then-U.S. Senator John F. Kennedy.[2]

During the Kennedy Administration, Moyers was first appointed as associate director of public affairs for the newly created Peace Corps in 1961. He served as Deputy Director from 1962-63. When Lyndon B. Johnson took office after the Kennedy assassination, Moyers became a special assistant to Johnson, serving from 1963–1967. He played a key role in organizing and supervising the 1964 Great Society legislative task forces and was a principal architect of Johnson's 1964 presidential campaign. Moyers acted as the President's informal chief of staff from October 1964 until 1966. From July 1965 to February 1967, he also served as White House Press Secretary.

Source: Wikipedia.

In short, Morning Joe's not just a ginormous wanker, but an ill-informed one at that.

wow

the contrast in their biographies is stunning!

Max Blumenthall on Joe Scarborough

MaxBlumenthal While on Morning Joe I learned Sarah Palin was not really Republican and the GOP is controlled by rational people. http://tinyurl.com/nxprum

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/max.blumenthal
"Joe was in denial and Mike claimed incredulously that Sarah Palin was not really a Republican. See below for links to all the polls I cited…" http://tinyurl.com/nxprum

Max Blumenthal Check the link for video of my appearance on Morning Joe today.

Max Blumenthal - Debating Joe Scarborough on Republican Radicalism
Source: maxblumenthal.com
I debate Joe Scarborough on the radical nature of the Republican Party. Joe was in denial and Mike claimed Sarah Palin wasn't really a Republican. Oh really?

Max was terrific

on Morning Joe. And I had the great pleasure of meeting him at his book party in Manhattan last night.