Jerold Nadler Whistles Past the Impeachment Graveyard
Tonight a smart and determined group of impeachment activists gathered in front of the Yale Club of New York City to urge Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) to hold impeachment hearings. Nadler was scheduled to speak at the annual dinner for Citizen Action of New York, one of New York's leading progressive organizations, which does outstanding work on education, health care, and other important issues.
Nadler chairs the Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties, so Dennis Kucinich's H.Res. 333 (recently revised as H.Res. 799) is before his committee, which makes him a key player on impeachment.
I stood with the impeachment activists for a while before the event began, and the response from passers-by was mostly positive, although midtown Manhattan is not a place to encourage honking!
I bought a ticket to the dinner inside hoping to speak with Nadler on behalf of the activists outside. While Nadler arrived near the end, I did get to spend a few minutes discussing impeachment with him, although we kept getting interrupted by other guests.
I have lobbied Nadler on impeachment several times, so I did not take him by surprise and he greeted me with a friendly smile, and we covered much of the same ground. "When are you going to schedule hearings on impeachment?" I began, aiming right for the bottom line. "As a subcommittee chairman I can't make that decision, it's up to Chairman Conyers," he replied.
"Besides it's a bad idea," he said. "Why?" I asked. "It would suck all the oxygen out of Congress, and we wouldn't get anything else done." I suppressed the obvious snarky answer that they weren't getting anything else done anyway, and took a different tack: "But it's just one subcommittee, how can that suck all the oxygen out of Congress?" "You know how the media would jump on it," he replied. I wanted to say, "Yes and that's good because the American people would support the impeachment effort," but someone else pulled him aside.
A few minutes later I caught him again. "What would we hold hearings on?" he asked. "Valerie Plame!" I replied. "So we'd call 4 witnesses for our side, and they'd call 1 for their side, and that would be that." "No, then you drill down on the evidence and build the case," I replied. "You have the whole court record to work with!" And someone else grabbed him.
I waited and gave it one more try. "Impeachment can never work, it wasn't designed for a two-party system, that's why we've never removed a President" he said. "So then we should tear up the Constitution?" I asked. "No we need a new Special Prosecutor law that would focus on truly impeachable offenses like abuse of power." "But we just got rid of the Special Prosecutor law because of Ken Starr," I said. "We can write a better law," he said. Yeah sure in 5 or 10 years, I thought to myself as someone else grabbed him.
We touched on a few other points along the way, like how the Democrats let the neocons get away with their Iran-Contra crimes in the late 80's, which allowed them to come back to power with Bush in 2000. But there was no argument I could offer that would make a dent. "You're not going to change my mind," he said nicely because we're almost becoming friends.
So there it stands, just as it did before. Nadler recognizes all of the crimes the Bush Administration is committing, but can't (because of Conyers) and won't (because of the two-party system and the rightwing-controlled media) hold impeachment hearings to stop them.
So what are we to do, those millions of us who care about the Constitution and the quiet rise of Fascism? Keep calling, keep writing, keep leafleting, keeping protesting, and keep lobbying until we somehow get the idea across to our Representatives that we are in a state of emergency that ordinary hearings and legislation cannot fix. "The Founding Fathers put impeachment in the Constitution just for Presidential abuses like these," Nadler said at one point. He understands the problem, as do all the other Democrats - they just need millions of Americans to demand that they act.
- Bob Fertik's blog
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Re: Jerold Nadler Whistles Past the Impeachment Graveyard
So what are we to do, those millions of us who care about the Constitution and the quiet rise of Fascism?
That really is the question, and thank you to Bob for coming out tonight, standing with us, and then going in to the event and getting to Nadler. I'm not sure if that part would have happened without you - I'm sure as hell not going to give the Dems $250 for access to Nadler for him to tell those of us who care about the Constitution to go to hell. I can get that kind of congressional response for free.
As long as all we do is call, write, leaflet, protest and lobby we are playing their game. Congress doesn't care what we think, they don't care about preserving the separation of powers/3 co-equal branches of government. As long as we line up, hat in hand, begging our esteemed reps to actually do their jobs, they can pat our little fevered heads and make us feel good about having "access" as they blow us off and continue to ignore/destroy the Constitution. What we have been doing so far is nowhere near enough.
I don't want to break the law or be anything but peaceful and respectful but we have got to figure out new ways to impress upon our fellow citizens that this is not America anymore. We need to hear what Nadler and Pelosi are saying to us. They are telling us to drop dead. They are telling us that we can engage them politically and have our little (or not so little) actions and protests and they don't care, because their power and influence are beyond our reach. They keep hearing from more or less the same people.
The media is the key. That damn corporate lie spewing deathbox in everyone's living room is the problem. Anyone want to talk to me about that? Please email me at daverobinsonworks@yahoo.com and write TV Activism in the subject line and we'll chat.
Meanwhile – let’s keep an eye out for more local Democratic fundraisers and try to get to the people going in there. If the Dems are going to listen to anyone – they aren’t but we can’t give up – they’re going to listen to people with money.
Dave Robinson
Brooklyn
Wow! Check out this federal civil rights case
This case is about a group of republicans retaliating against a whistle blowing grandmother. They tried to use the police to abduct her and got caught. Stupid. The grandmother's brother works for the Corrections Department in the same town as the police. Go here: http://emccray.com/. Read Document Nos. 309 and 311.
http://emccray.com/uploads/309_1_._MANDAMUS._Emergency_Petition_for_a_Wr...
http://emccray.com/uploads/311_1_._MANDAMUS._Affidavit_In_Support_of_Pet...
Can we say impeachment Baby?!