Edwards Sets 2009 Iraq Withdrawal Deadline

Just yesterday I complained there was no substantive difference among the three Democratic frontrunners (Clinton, Edwards, Obama) on ending the U.S. occupation Iraq, since they all promised to keep significant forces in Iraq by the end of their first term in 2013.

But today John Edwards set a deadline of December 2009 for the withdrawal of all U.S. combat troops.

Edwards Calls for Quick End to Iraq Training Effort
By MICHAEL R. GORDON

SIOUX CITY, Iowa — John Edwards says that if elected president he would withdraw the American troops who are training the Iraqi army and police as part of a broader plan to remove virtually all American forces within 10 months.

Mr. Edwards, the former senator from North Carolina who is waging a populist campaign for the Democratic nomination, said that extending the American training effort in Iraq into the next presidency would require the deployment of tens of thousands of troops to provide logistical support and protect the advisers.

“To me, that is a continuation of the occupation of Iraq,” he said in a 40-minute interview on Sunday aboard his campaign bus as it rumbled through western Iowa.

In one of his most detailed discussions to date about how he would handle Iraq as president, Mr. Edwards staked out a position that would lead to a more rapid and complete troop withdrawal than his principal rivals, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, who have indicated they are open to keeping American trainers and counterterrorism units in Iraq.

Hallelujah!

Of course the devil is always in the details, and we need to make sure there's no "wriggle room" for significant numbers of "residual forces." According to the Times,

Mr. Edwards’s plan calls for immediately withdrawing 40,000 to 50,000 troops. Nearly all of the remaining American troops would be removed within 9 or 10 months. The only force that would remain would be a 3,500-to-5,000-strong contingent that would protect the American Embassy and possibly humanitarian workers.

I don't have a big problem with protecting the Embassy, although I'd like to see our Embassy shrunk down to the size of our other embassies, rather than being larger than Vatican City. 

Edwards' web site is more vague, referring only to "combat troops" without addressing other categories of troops.

Withdraw Combat Troops within Nine to Ten Months

Edwards believes we should completely withdraw all combat troops from Iraq within nine to ten months and prohibit permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq. After withdrawal, we should retain sufficient forces in Quick Reaction Forces located outside Iraq, in friendly countries like Kuwait, to prevent an Al Qaeda safe haven, a genocide, or regional spillover of a civil war.

I don't know when Edwards decided to set a 12/09 deadline, but he should have publicized it months ago when Chris Bowers was blogging about residual forces. On 9/30/07, Bowers and other bloggers concluded Edwards planned to keep "One brigade OR up to 90,000 support troops," citing the 9/26/07 Dartmouth/MSNBC Presidential Debate:

Edwards mentions leaving a single brigade of combat troops for an unknown period of time as well as removing combat troops, leaving possibly tens of thousands of troops behind.

Of course Edwards' position is less definitive than Kucinich or Richardson, but if the early primaries narrow the field to Clinton, Obama, and Edwards, then I will support Edwards.

What about you?

Update 1: InsiderAdvantage predicts Edwards will win big in Iowa when the longer-shot candidates fail to reach the 15% threshhold and their supporters switch their votes to their second-favorite candidates:

Using the reallocation methodology InsiderAdvantage used in 2004 – which correctly indicated a fairly comfortable win for John Kerry – our new poll reveals that, if the caucuses were held today, the reallocated final outcome would be:

Edwards: 41%
Clinton: 34%
Obama: 25%

If that proves accurate, Edwards would definitely shock the political establishment - and the counterattack from the Corporate Media would be fast and fierce. Stay tuned...

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Hmmm, has Edwards said when he would pull...

the 150,000 Blackwater and other mercenaries out? 'Course not. Has he said how much airlift/sealift would be required and where it would come from...or is he planning one of those Saigon sights where the last troops are desperately hanging on to Chopper skids?

As you say, the Devil is in the details. I don't think/believe that Edwards is capable of understanding the problem.

He also seems uncertain about how many and what kind of troops he will leave, and does not even mention the 14 permanent bases Bush built. The Embassy? Toss the key to the Iraqis as we walk out of the country.

What does he plan on doing with all the equipment we have over there. Took us years to get it there didn't it?

Edwards has always been the one candidate(I do not accept the Kucinich candidacy)who has promised endless lines of chickens for the pot and model T's for every garage. Plays well down south but...what about thinking America?

A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.

Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623

 

The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.

Another Position on Iraq in Less than Three Months!

In the late Sept. 2007 debates Edwards was among those Democrats who refused to guarantee an Iraq exit by 2013. Edwards: "I cannot make that commitment." Now he "Sets 2009 Iraq Withdrawal Deadline." Edwards is a phony. Worse than Hillary, even though he position can change in a matter of minutes (like licenses for illegals).

Obama is the only choice.

No, Obama is not the ONLY choice...

people will ask How can you say that?

Easy, he only got about 40% in the Iowa caucus.

Edwards/Clinton are tied: Collectively, they control almost 60% of the caucus support.

60 trumps 40. No matter how you color it.

McCain wants to keep the troops in Iraq for 10, 50, 100, 1000 years, depending upon which speech he made and you heard.

Shuckabee, it is roumored, has made the comment that he would choose CHENEY as his VP. Isn't that a 'nice kettle of fish' as Oliver Hardy was wont to say to Stan Laurel.

Far as I'm concerned, the race is on and all our flawed candidates are still running.

It is said that the game isn't over till the fat man sings.

A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.

Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623

 

The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.

OMG! Cheney?!?

I think Huckabee needs to be institutionalized...

 

 

 

 

Usama bin Forgotten

 

I like Edwards

:-)

Usama bin Forgotten

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