Americans Want Real Change from Obama - Not Media Garbage

This week, Obama's Change.gov website added "Open For Questions" to allow Americans to submit their own questions, and to vote on all the questions submitted. There have now been 587,209 votes on 7,135 questions from 10,607 people. The top-10 list is below. So what do the American people want from Obama?

First of all, we do not want what the Media wants, which is hysterical obsession over the TV-driven scandal-du-jour. Despite a Media sh*tstorm (TM) over Rod Blagojevich, questions about him do not appear on the top 10 because Change.gov users are voting overwhelmingly against those questions.

(Note to Ben Smith and Jonathan Stein: please spare us your horror over our determined independence from the Corporate Media's agenda. If you know your Netroots history, you would know the Netroots was born in 1998 in reaction to the Corporate Media's demand for Clinton's impeachment, when millions signed a simple internet petition to "Censure and Move On" instead of impeach. In other words, the DNA of the Netroots is to stand in opposition to the idiotic masturbatory obsessions of the Corporate Media. That's exactly why the Netroots ignored Sean Hannity's obsessions with Rev. Wright and Bill Ayres and swept Barack Obama into the White House by 9 million votes.)

So what do Americans want? We want change - real change. And we want accountability for those who created the disasters we now must struggle heroically to fix. Specifically:

  • We do not want the government to waste $350 billion - $7 trillion (depending on how you count) in Wall Street bailout money (#1). And we want corrupt bankers to be held accountable (#10).
  • We want our Constitution and our Bill of Rights back (#2). We want George Bush and his appointees to be prosecuted for defying them (#4), and a ban on mercenaries (#5). (Full disclosure: I submitted #4).
  • We want public policy to be guided by science, not rightwing ideology: stem cell research (#3), science and math education (#6).
  • We want to protect our environment through sustainable agriculture (#7) and less pollution (#8).
  • And of course we want health care for the uninsured (#9).

All in all, this is a thoughtful and intelligent list. I can't wait for Obama's answers!

  1. "What will you do to establish transparency and safeguards against waste with the rest of the Wall Street bailout money?" Diane, New Jersy
  2. "What will you do as President to restore the Constitutional protections that have been subverted by the Bush Administration and how will you ensure that our system of checks and balances is renewed?" Kari, Seattle
  3. "Will you lift the ban on Stem Cell research in your first 100 days in office?" James_M, Nashville, TN
  4. "Will you appoint a Special Prosecutor - ideally Patrick Fitzgerald - to independently investigate the gravest crimes of the Bush Administration, including torture and warrantless wiretapping?" Bob Fertik, New York City
  5. "What will you do to end the use of mercenary forces (ie Blackwater) by our military?" Betsie, Mtn Home, AR
  6. "What will you do to promote science and mathematics education to Elementary and Middle School students?" JasonWyatt, Raleigh, NC
  7. "What do you plan to do to our food industry to make it more sustainable? Will there be changes to our farming policies?" Jentry, Lincoln, NE
  8. "What will you do first to reduce pollution/waste and incentivize greener behavior across the country?" Diane, Boston, MA
  9. "How long will it take for you to implement your healthcare policy to insure those who do not have any insurance at all?" Benji Rutledge, New York City
  10. "What will be done to make the banking industry accountable when there are so many substantiated stories about their mismangement in relationship to selling bank owned properties and managing potential foreclosures?" Robyn, Cleveland, OH

Update 1: Here are the final top 10 as of the close of voting Friday at noon. Obviously the potheads showed up in force, taking #1 and #7 and pushing healthcare (#9) and banking accountability (#10) off the top 10 list.

  1. "Will you consider legalizing marijuana so that the government can regulate it, tax it, put age limits on it, and create millions of new jobs and create a billion dollar industry right here in the U.S.? S. Man, Denton 

  2. "What will you do as President to restore the Constitutional protections that have been subverted by the Bush Administration and how will you ensure that our system of checks and balances is renewed? Kari, Seattle 

  3. "What will you do to establish transparency and safeguards against waste with the rest of the Wall Street bailout money? Diane, New Jersy 

  4. "Will you lift the ban on Stem Cell research in your first 100 days in office? James_M, Nashville, TN 

  5. "What will you do to promote science and mathematics education to Elementary and Middle School students? JasonWyatt, Raleigh, NC 

  6. "Will you appoint a Special Prosecutor - ideally Patrick Fitzgerald - to independently investigate the gravest crimes of the Bush Administration, including torture and warrantless wiretapping? Bob Fertik, New York City 

  7. "13 states have compassionate use programs for medial Marijuana, yet the federal gov't continues to prosecute sick and dying people.  Isn't it time for the federal gov't to step out of the way and let doctors and families decide what is appropriate? Greg, Minnesota 

  8. "What do you plan to do to our food industry to make it more sustainable?  Will there be changes to our farming policies? Jentry, Lincoln, NE 

  9. "What will you do to end the use of mercenary forces (ie Blackwater) by our military? Betsie, Mtn Home, AR 

  10. "What will you do first to reduce pollution/waste and incentivize greener behavior across the country? Diane, Boston, MA 

 

Another issue that can change America

Missing here is a connection between capitalist elites worldwide, our various art industries and institutions, arts education and the umbilical chord of gold that controls their messages. Many American artists I know won't speak out on these issues for fear they'll be marginalized. They self censor fearing they'll be run out of the money for their boldness. Yet other countries support controversial artists, and of course other repressive regimes persecute artists into exile or arrest. Every one of the above issues can be topics for publicly supported artists. If America supports its artists with substantive grants for issue oriented work, we will see another area that helps create change without controls from the mainstream media or its elites. I can happen here if we want real change in all aspects of our American life. Cultural health is just as important as mental and physical health.

Paid Artists?

They self censor fearing they'll be run out of the money for their boldness.

What is wrong with folks not wanting to labor so that the fruits of their labor are turned over to Artists who might spit on them?

The above is not the end of the argument but there is some room here to argue both sides.

Jim

A sad commentary

What is wrong with working people not wanting to pay for unnecessary wars and bloated military budgets when they're getting screwed by their government and the corporations that wreak tremendous profits from war mongering? Your comment is typical American backlash against critical public culture. No wonder we could accept eight years of Bush without protest. Remember the Puritans were thrown out of England in part for their art hating. We know for certain where they landed. Who's spitting on who here, Jim?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

In addition, although I made it crystal clear that the common folks' initial sensibilities need not be the end of an argument, you immediately moved to condescension.

"Your comment is typical American backlash against critical public culture. No wonder we could accept eight years of Bush without protest. Remember the Puritans were thrown out of England in part for their art hating. We know for certain where they landed. Who's spitting on who here, Jim?"

Maybe some artists should get off their lazy asses and pay for their own art WHENEVER that art is supposed to be informing the great unwashed masses of how fucked up their life's work / world view is? OTHERWISE the message is not self consistent.

(NOTE: this is not a debate about punishing the artist for a message "we" don't want to hear. This is about introducing falsehoods into art by artificially isolating artists from the very conditions they are attempting to analyze in their art).

Obviously the above does not lobby for or against other forms of public supported art. It does not even lobby for the complete eradication of the very form of art it criticizes.

It simply criticizes it and raises the common folks concerns. An artist would understand. A self absorbed hack would not. Why would we want to pay a hack?

Jim

P.S. "...typical American backlash against critical public culture."

Re-read your sentence here, and think about all it implies about self consistency and elitism on the negative side, and leadership on the positive side. My posts were not from a fixed perspective, as this issue is multidimensional.

Self Censorship is Art

A) If the main thrust of one's art is self edification, then fine.

B) If the main thrust of one's art is a message, then it must be persuasive, otherwise it is a message for the artist alone, and we are back to case A.

CASE B:

Artists, whose canvases are vast, understand that self censorship is a part of the art of persuasiveness.

Thrusting early bits of art on a public that ONLY recoils (and is not simply exercised by it), could instead be self censored. The public then probed strategically IF that is what is required.

---Any final bit of “art”, that does persuade, will only be a bit of the canvas that the artist has toiled over.---

Jim, We didn't know Ye

Jim, I never would have taken you for an art critic. Knowing the difference between hacks and 'real' artists is normally only given to the educated, acclaimed ivory tower elitists. Since I don't know how to differentiate these nuances, I defer to your expertise.

All I know is that critical artists tried for years to inform the American public, through many media and venues, about the Republican culture of greed and war. Obviously many Americans wanted that culture. We became frustrated. I never met an artist who supported our recent wars. Even as they were taking money from the war profiteers and financiers. It's American hypocrisy that appalls me. Feeding from the trough that seeks to muzzle you is no different than an animal being led to slaughter. Perhaps art and artists are really American after all.

Tell me precisely where my logic is incorrect

Tell me precisely where my logic is incorrect, and if you would not insult me directly to my face, please do not do so here.

You wrote:

Jim, I never would have taken you for an art critic. Knowing the difference between hacks and 'real' artists is normally only given to the educated, acclaimed ivory tower elitists. Since I don't know how to differentiate these nuances, I defer to your expertise.

Ivory Tower Elitist Art critic?

---First off, to a degree, we all are Larry. We all know what moves us. What we want to pay for instead of food, medicine, or fishing rods.

---Secondly, I did NOT point out who was a hack and who was an artist. I made the daring assumption that BOTH existed. I stepped out on a limb, by your reckoning, by noting a hack could be defined as: someone who wants to criticize how folks live, without having to live like them AND dismissing all criticism about such inconsistency and the possible errors this might introduce into their art. (NOTE: I said "could" not "does").

---Thirdly, I love art. If I did not go into science, I would have gone into art. I am offering constructive criticism. If I error then I would be thrilled to be corrected.

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I don't think we disagree much about the War.

If I unwittingly insulted you

I apologize. Sensitivity ain't one of my strong points. However for me art is not so easily defined. It's affects are not so rigid and potent that they speak to, or for, an entire public in one or another defined way. Duck art moves Minnesotans. It moves me deeply emotional smiles and smirks. I don't think art can have errors as much as mixed, confused or ineffective messages. Since I actually do judge art, I know it's not an elitist but an intellectual process. I try to be as open minded as possible. I often want to point out theme or content weaknesses to artists, it's not my job to teach or preach. Mine is to accept or reject art work for different shows. So I know from experience that artists who intentionally desire to insult the public are few and far between. I've never seen a work that is deliberately profane or irreverent. Anti-authoritarian Yes, Yes, Yes! By all the powers of politics Yes! Part of a political artist's goal is to criticize corrupt and inhumane authority. That so many tell me they feel they are frustrated, ineffectual and ignored because of the political climate is my issue here. Hopefully this too shall pass. I don't have any more to say about this issue as the weekend looms with shows I must see and criticize.

Thanks Larry.

Actually, I was braced for you telling me you WOULD say it to my face. lol!

I agree with you that one of the problems I allude to, is tiny: profane art. I bother to address that straw man because it's used by the Right and a lot of folks are biting. Take a look here:

-The War in Iraq is an issue of mythic proportions.

-The ability of the populace to be stretched is limited.

-Giving folks ammunition to go after “artists” in general (including Anti Iraq War Artists), because easier targets exist in the art world, is a bad thing.

-So yes, artists who want to advance there own HUMAN SHIT INSIDE PLEXIGLASS should self censor their “brush stroke” for the sake of the larger piece.

And please don’t make me defend shit in plexiglass…………because I will.

In the last few posts, and here, I'm just giving you snippets, so perhaps it's too cryptic. My hope however, is that points made by conservative folks ARE addressed. Further, that while I work them into something that might be mistaken, at first, as coming form the Right, that those same points can inform the Left (as in self censoring for a greater good).

Now:

  • Should artists be temporally bound for a time so as to effect a greater change later?
  • Should artists be bound to labor for a time so as to understand the nature of the beast they are analyzing?
  • etc.

We may not agree about these but what worried me, was that it seemed the questions were not going to be admitted into the conversation. That, I felt, was not critical thinking, and bode poorly for embracing some conservative folks into our fold.

Finally, my reference to "errors" may be similar to your "mixed, confused". My reference to "persuasion" might relate to your "ineffective".

(You knew that the Duck reference was going to elicit a smile ;)

Jim

P.S. "That so many tell me they feel they are frustrated, ineffectual and ignored because of the political climate is my issue here. " I think this applies to everyone against the Iraq War and there is a little bit of the chicken and the egg here: A politics which admits artists, does not need them as much as one that does not.

Haven't conservative folks....

Haven't conservative folks basically been having there way for the past 27 years. Enough is enough. See what it has done for the country. I'm tired of listening to there distorted views of the world. In my opinion.

It's too late baby it's too late......

Though we really did try to make it...
Hey sorry to fall into a verse of a cheesy old song but it was the first thing that came to mind, honestly. Everybody is talking about accountability for George Bush and prosecution for his war crimes. I consider myself to be one of the first to know just how corrupt the Bush administration was going to be. When questions about 9/11 started getting swept under the rug and suddenly we had the administration talking retribution against anybody and everybody, I knew it was corrupt. One of the things I studied heavily in college was organizational communications, and propoganda in partcicular. And so when I kept hearing the phrase "Iraq..weapons of mass destruction...9/11" I knew right away we were being fed a big lie and that the administration was counting on the stupidity of the average voter.
So after all this time, I have signed every petition available over and over and over again. I have signed so many things urging impeachment proceedings that it makes my head swim. I have written letters to the editor, most more thought out than this note, and even spell checked unlike this note to other members. Two conclusions have come to my mind on the subject of prosecuting Bush for war crimes. For starters it is too late. For seconds if he is allowed to walk away without prosecution we will never know true freedom or true democracy again. When I was younger I grew fascinated with the asassination of John F. Kennedy. The more I studied about it and the more I read on the subject the more convinced I became that the people who killed him were a group of wealthy Republicans who who were in the CIA at the time and who still have ties to the current administration. I believe these people hi-jacked our government somewhere along about 1958 and have been a force behind all of our wars since. So now after having signed literally hundreds of petitions for the introduction of articles of impeachment again a corrupt administration, I have come to the sad conclusion that it really is too late. Democracy is just a word slung around every so often to make us feel like we are actually accomplishing something with our votes. The only thing we are going to do by pushing the Obama administration to prosecute Bush is to get Obama asassinated by the C.I.A. with a dim witted Alabama clan member held up as a patsy. I am not signing any more petitions. Let's just hope we can get a few good laws and some jobs out of the Obama administration and leave it at that. If he pushes too hard to fight corruption in Washington, I firmly believe he will wind up dead at the hands of our own Government.

Remember Genghis Khan?

I understand your lament but when you say:

"...if he is allowed to walk away without prosecution we will never know true freedom or true democracy again."

I think you are forgetting history (even the near past):

(Death Toll) (Cause) (Centuries)

55 million Second World War 20C
40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C
40 million Mongol Conquests 13C
36 million An Lushan Revolt 8C
25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C
20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C
20 million Annihilation of the American Indians 15C-19C
20 million Iosif Stalin 20C
19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C
18 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C
17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C
17 million British India (mostly famine) 19C
15 million First World War 20C
9 million Russian Civil War 20C
8 million Fall of Rome 3C-5C
8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C
7 million Thirty Years War 17C
5 million Russia's Time of Troubles 16C-17C
4 million Napoleonic Wars 19C
3 million Chinese Civil War 20C
3 million French Wars of Religion 16C

So oddly enough.........cheer up!

Jim

Jim, you suppose we could replace either...

Pelosi or Reid with Genghis?

A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.

Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623

 

The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.

Sounds like...

...a Saturday Night live skit!

Pelosi/Reid

Until Pelosi is forced out, no-body will be able to do anything about the crimes and total negelect by the Bush adminstration. Reid does what Pelosi tells him to do.
Pelosi is in the process of being exposed to knowing about some of Bush's illegal acts, and purposily holding it from Congress and the American people. She was one of the people that was advised about Bush's torture and wire tapping crimes, but chose to keep it quite. I'm hopeful that further investigations will force her to get out of her Speaker's role, and hopefully out of Washington.
I see her as the major problem with any further investigation on behalf of "We the People".

As to your conspiricy theories...

...I would expect the exact same chain of events if none of your conspiracy theories were true.

Commonplace mechanism are clearly enough to explain what happened in this Nation: religious extremism from without and within, economic theories sold like snake oil along with the sugar of -those damned blacks, gays, liberals, etc- to make the medicine go down, etc.

So with an "effect" not needing a further "cause", the only thing one can advance in conspiracy theories are tedious details. And these, to help prove fantastical assertions. This isn't a "disproof" but it should make one cautious.

We have had years of oppression & repression, but don't give up

...although I'll be surprised if BO isn't assassinated before innauguration day. The saving grace is it would be so blatant an indication the facists will stop at nothing it would cause such an uprising & civil war that business would be completely shut down, and you know the radical right wing tin foil hat wearers couldn't have that. This is probably the reason NYC or DC haven't already been nuked with a suitcase bomb, either by external terrorists or the terrorists within our own government who orchestrated 911.

More likely, though, is Obama will be compromised in his ideals by the 'Absolute power corrupts absolutely' paradigm, or continually be obstructed in Congress (Senate) by the same Republican thug minority the elections couldn't overcome.

One thing to keep in mind, though, is this...In all of history 'tyrannies are temporary'.

While I have to agree with the #1 question in the poll there is

an even more important related issue than use of recreational pot, and the hundreds of billions of dollars spent by ideologs trying to surpress its use (Note: it's not a 'moral' issue, but a financial one).

The more important issue is the use of industrialized hemp for replacing the use of fossil fuels used in many of the products we use around the world every day. Top on the list is production of fuel for our vehicles in America (it can replace ALL of the foreign imported oil, and even ALL of the domestically produced oil used rather quickly...and the supply will NEVER run out). Hemp turned into biofuel is the best source available, 20 to 50 TIMES more productive than biofuel made from corn or even sugar cane.

Additionally, it is also not going to starve people around the globe, replenishes the soil without fossil fuel based fertilizers, and has a positive impact regarding reducton of greenhouse gas emmissions. Jack Herer, in his book "The Emperor Has No Clothes", even makes the claim, "Hemp can save the world", a bold statement, but undeniable when the facts he presents are considered.

When are we going to evolve from the fear inducing paradigm of J.Edgar Hoover, Henry Anslinger, & JR Hearst into the 21st century? When are we going to throw off the shackles of companies like DuPont, who lobbied Congress to reject hemp because they stood to gain trillions substituting synthetics (like nylon)for 'greener' hemp products? When are we going to wake up to the fact big business has bribed Congress to foist poor solutions on America strictly because of greed for profit?

constitutional protections

Hello,
WE MUST write our elected officials for the 35 articles, so that due process can be served. There is no such thing as "off the table". People of the United States of America vs. Richard Millhouse Nixon has been reviewed by the highest court in the land and protocol has been defined. There should have been an appointment of Special Counsel after the Esteemed Representative from Ohio entered these into record. Discovery is the phase where "off the table" is addressed. Fact is the Senate cannot even comment on this after the 35 articles were read into record. The current President and his Group cannot issue directives or act in any other fashion until these articles are addressed. This was the protocol established by the Nixon ruling. Write your elected officials to uphold the law. Simple stuff. Law has already been defined. I know many of you folks will pen various comments to move this dialog along and I encourage them all. After you take the time to blog this comment, send a comment/letter to your elected officials and keep demanding that your elected officials uphold their legal responsibilities of office. A Yogi Berra-ism is good about here.
Thanks all,
citizen

potheads

The Final top first Questions from Obama's Change.gov website was about marijuana.You have no right calling this people potheads.Now your are sounding like President George W. Bush and hes Administration showing no respect for the American people I dont think I like the Democrats.com web site any more I have had all the Bush no respect bullcrap I can stand If this is being a Democrat then I dont wont to be one any more I have respect for all the American.

Steven Harmon

POT before HEALTH CARE and BANKING ACCOUNTABILITY

Steven,

Did you see the context of the "Pothead" statement you are rebelling against?

I think if you'll re-read it you'll see that that those who showed up moved HEALTH CARE and BANKING ACCOUNTABILITY off the list!!!

What name would you give those folks?

Remember, nobody is referring to folks who simply want pot legalized. We are talking about people who wiped HEALTH CARE and BANKING ACCOUNTABILITY off the agenda!!!

Are you saying that those folks should not be shamed?

Jim

I don't think I like you

I don't think I like you anymore because you shamed my pot. Now my kettle needs a hug too.

1) Health 2) Banking 3) Mandatory Pot

;)

Good enough?

Will the mandatory pot be

Will the mandatory pot be made out of iron, or aluminum? Will it come with a chicken in it?

Why obviously...

...it will be made of Pot Metal.

(Wikipedia Definition: Pot metal is a slang term that refers to alloys that consist of inexpensive, low-melting point metals used to make fast, inexpensive castings).

Awww, and I was hoping for

Awww, and I was hoping for pig iron.

Bill, you know well that the pot will be...

a crock pot.

1. The economy and jobs
2. Single-payer healthcare for all
3. Restoring the Constitution
4. Putting people in office who will work for the people who put them there.
5. Ban religious influence from Government
6. Free education to all who qualify--through university levels.

A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.

Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623

 

The greatest derangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.

Energy may advance much of that list.

-Immediate Jobs.

-The need for broader Eduction.

  • Education putting Greek Mythology, etc. in perspective.
  • Education making it clear what a gift our Constitution is.

-A sustainable, home grown energy supply, freeing up hearts and minds to other advancements, like reasonable Health care.

It would be thrilling to actually implement change. To thrust America back into ADVANCEMENT.

Let's do something BIG America!!!

Man Rescued Just Short of Rowing Pacific

SYDNEY (Dec. 13) - An Italian adventurer rescued near exhaustion after 10 months rowing the Pacific solo said on Saturday he did not feel like a loser and never felt alone during his voyage due to thousands of e-mails from fans.

Alex Bellini, 30, set off from Lima, Peru in February and finally called off his trip on Friday, just 65 nautical miles from Australia's east coast. During that time he lived on dried food and distilled seawater and did not set foot on land once.

READ MORE: http://news.aol.com/article/man-stops-just-short-of-rowing-pacific/276650

Now, that's MY kind of

Now, that's MY kind of pot...;-)

Patrick Fitzgerald?

A fine list, but why do you prefer a prosecutor who let Rove and Cheney off the hook in the Plame investigation?

And why a Republican prosecutor at that?

While I have no major issues with Fitzgerald (Gerald Fitzpatrick??), why would we pick a Republican to prosecute Republican criminals? Why do we even have an incoming(continuing) Republican unindicted October Suprise criminal as the new Sect'y of Defense? Is this a Harry Reid 60 vote Stockholm syndrome mentality? This guy failed to follow up on the Cheney/Rove connection to the felony political outing of our CIA agent for WMD's, now you want him leading the next investigation into Cheney/Rove? This is serious stuff folks! There is no margin for compromise or failure (again) here!!

Democracy shown not to work

Community Spirit

Taking an increased interest in our community, our family attends a neighborhood watch meeting to become better acquainted with our neighbors, our local police officers and representatives.

At some point we notice our daughter (or our mother) has stepped out of the room.

After a few moments, concerned about her absence, we step into the hallway to see where she might have gone – perhaps the restroom down the hall.

At the next door, two steps down the darkened hallway, we hear a scuffle and a muffled cry for help – we try the door but find it locked from the inside.

We rush back to the meeting room and call upon the officers for help.

We all rush to the locked door – the officers force it open – plunge into the room with guns drawn and discover our daughter (or our mother) being raped!

The officers turn to us and instruct us all to return to the meeting room. They holster their guns and shepherd us out of the room – back into the hall explaining, “We have to let him go – he’s almost finished.”

The elected officials nod their heads in agreement.

Need I explain who the rapist might be? That my mother is the country, the Constitution our daughter and those we depend upon for protection are our Congressmen?

Concern for the new President

Even I, an avowed atheist, may be moved to pray for Barak Obama as he shoulders the burdens of leadership of a nation whose citizens and whose elected representatives have so devalued the rule of law and our Constitution that George Bush and Richard Cheney are permitted to continue poisoning the environment, both moral and physical, until their very last days in office when they may pardon themselves and their cohorts for the many impeachable actions that have ben so well documented over the past eight years.

A question for the President Elect

How will you remove the stain on our Constitution left by the failure of this Congress to honor their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution in the face of so many carefully researched and well documented violations of trust and law attributed to Bush, Cheney et al?
The Constitution does not empower Speaker Pelosi to take impeachment "off the table". The repudiation of Bush's impeachable actions through the constitutionally mandated process of impeachment is the only way to demonstrate to our children, future Presidents and the world that our system of government establishes a nation of laws that works for all the people.
This work left undone is a corrosive so dangerous to the fundamental ideals of our democracy that it undermines the very oath of office taken by every elected officeholder.
Personally, I find no motivation to work for a political party whose leadership and whose elected representatives - and whose MEMBERS found insufficient devotion to the Constitution to use its mandated procedure, impeachment, to remove the President as well as the Vice President whose actions in office have been more reprehensibly impeachable than those of any administration in our history.

Get Bruce Fein or Robert Wexler as Attorney General! There can be no real Change until the Bush/Cheney administration and its policies are officially and publicly repudiated.

It ain't "their" party.

You wrote:

"I find no motivation to work for a political party whose..."

Who does?

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Building a party is a struggle for all time ;)

Elbow the duds out or run for office yourself!

It ain't "their" party, it belongs to those who extend the most effort to form it.

Jim

Dlmcd1966 and Others

I think Obama will probably be “assassinated” anyway if he rocks the boat too much, so why not go down doing the right thing? And the real people who run the government, this country and are responsible for the JFK thing aren’t in the CIA or any agency. So don’t blame any of them. They’re not republican, democrat or independent. More like satanists and that’s all.

Anyway, No one is talking about restoring the dollar which is about to crash. The first thing Obama needs to do is kick the Federal Reserve out of our country. All our income taxes do is pay the interest for the money we borrow from them crooks. We don’t need them, the whole thing was created/passed during the middle of the night on Christmas Eve back in 1913 when no one was around to oppose it except for the few crooks that were paid to pass it. (Look it up)

Once those crooks are kicked out of the country, then Obama can get rid of the income tax. Imagine a 33% pay increase. Talk about stimulating the economy. And it doesn’t involve a buy out, oops I mean bail out, which only devaluates the dollar even more and will cause its eventual collapse. You guys don’t seem to realize how close we are to becoming a 3rd world country. We can’t keep printing more money out of thin air and expect it to be of any value.

The government doesn’t need the federal reserve acting as a middle man for us to print money. Our forefathers fought desperately to keep this out of America and now we’ve allowed it to happen and we’re reaping the rewards for this mistake. But any salvation for this country has to start there. Then we can do all the others things being talked about. Otherwise none of it doesn’t matters.

Why we must not let them escape and simply retire..

The world is watching us, without prosecuting Herr Rumsfeldt, GeorgEWbushie, and whataDICcheney etal for all the crimes they have comitted, we the people have simply lost our way. I too hold Nancy Pelosi resopnisble for taking impeachment off the table. She obviously is not willing to do her job. Obama needs to make sure these guys are able to be prosecuted after leaving office, and I for one do not want them retired-laughing all the way to the bank. George Bush drove this country into the ditch. And he and moreso even Cheney need to be held accountable. Herr Rumsfeldt the true sinister evil player himself is golfing today. This makes me sick. Torture and Guantanomo bay and Blackwater also need IMMEDIATE attention by Obama. The world is watching and the time is now.. IMPEACHMENT on their way out... WHY NOT??????

Lets SUE THEM...... we the people vs. Cheney et.al

Why not a massive suit against them.. for TORTURE
LIES THAT LED US TO WAR
GUANTANOMO BAY
BLACKWATER CONTRACTS
HALLIBURTON CONTRACTS
DEATHS of INNOCENT IRAQI's
DEATHS of US soldiers
I can go on and on do i need to?
STEALING from our treasury... like the 8 million spent on Miami FTAA protests out of the first 8 Billion allocated to IRAQ WAR??
We have so much proof on them they cannot possibly win... but wait they always seem one step ahead of us......... by firing all the US attourneys they have even taken control of our justice system which need I remind you was set up to make sure GOVERNMENT never got out of control of we the people...... it really is simple...... HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE some how..

I think building a big zoo in what used to be bagdad isnt a bad idea and throwing them all in one cell together.... and can we add that weirdo from North Korea before he gets outta line as well??? Let them play cards and fist fight all they want...... and we can just watch them 24/7 in their cages in what used to be downtown IRAQ.... i dunno what to do but we MUST do something..... we MUST....

We have PLENTY of evidence.. if we fail to impeach then i guess we will just have to sue them........

I will not rest till I see them held accountable......

Prosecution is not optional

Our country was formed by Liberal thinkers looking for individual rights and freedoms. That includes equality with respect to all things legal. There is no other option for Constitutionalist PE Obama, nor is this a matter even close to suitable for some committee or commission. It is the People's right to legal redress for any crime, including subversion, preemption, torture, murder, and theft via occupation.

There is no grey area to explore.

If Obama wants to frustrate those of us who knew what was up _before_ the 2000 coup, and create havoc, go ahead and toss this grave matter aside. It is the single most important duty Obama has before him. I would suggest he takes care of business quickly and assigns the matter to Fitzgerald and team.

I know they are ready.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/fitzs_dominoes.html

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